Nightcrawler Vs Nightwing

Started by StiltmanFTW7 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Somebody probably should post NC fight against Sabertooth. Don't think Riv will turn over so easily with words. I can post it if no one has it.

Classic Kurt, not Current.

Powerset may be the same, but Creed did say that Kurt was never fighting like that. He was pissed by Logan's death, that's not the scenario we have here.

Anyway, since Dick has no HF, super-stamina or experience with Kurt's 'ports, he's getting beaten by being teleported alone...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Classic Kurt, not Current.

Powerset may be the same, but Creed did say that Kurt was never fighting like that. He was pissed by Logan's death, that's not the scenario we have here.

Anyway, since Dick has no HF, super-stamina or experience with Kurt's 'ports, he's getting beaten by being teleported alone...

I understand that. People tend to argue "best of abilities" so much on the forum, why not give Kurt the same love.

Its interesting how some of you debate your characters the way you'd like them to be.
Characters usually arent as invincible as we'd like them to be.
You can debate them that way, but others will disagree.

As for me, i like to give both sides of a fight equal credence when possible.
I post my threads at 2 sites, and have often argued both sides at once, usually in response to posters using the trite "stomps easily" response.
If you guys were saying NW escrima sticked NC and tied his tail in a knot 10/10, i'd be disagreeing.

Originally posted by riv6672
Its interesting how some of you debate your characters the way you'd like them to be.
Characters usually arent as invincible as we'd like them to be.
You can debate them that way, but others will disagree.

As for me, i like to give both sides of a fight equal credence when possible.
I post my threads at 2 sites, and have often argued both sides at once, usually in response to posters using the trite "stomps easily" response.
If you guys were saying NW escrima sticked NC and tied his tail in a knot, i'd be disagreeing.

I can tell.

Anyways, the blending in shadows thing, Kurt tends to do this all of the time. Its one of his more consistent abilities that he never forgets.

Originally posted by carver9
I can tell.

Impressive how much sarcasm can come through in a post. 🙂

@original super senior member

Lol, no. It's one of his most forgotten abilities. Major screw-up, never fixed by writers/editors.

I'm not talking about stealth here - he literally used to be able to become invisible in the shadows.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
@original super senior member

Lol, no. It's one of his most forgotten abilities. Major screw-up, never fixed by writers/editors.

I'm not talking about stealth here - he literally used to be able to become invisible in the shadows.


Thats been pointed out here before, talking about. "Forgotten" powers. It was most prominent under Claremont in NCs case.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
@original super senior member

Lol, no. It's one of his most forgotten abilities. Major screw-up, never fixed by writers/editors.

I'm not talking about stealth here - he literally used to be able to become invisible in the shadows.

So it's stealth that he use now instead of melting into the shadows?

Originally posted by riv6672
Thats been pointed out here before, talking about. "Forgotten" powers. It was most prominent under Claremont in NCs case.

The problem with saying something was most prominent under Claremont is that he wrote X-Men for over a decade, and set the bar for a lot of how we understand the X-Men and their powers.

He wrote the definitive versions of several of the characters, among which you could include Nightcrawler.

Originally posted by carver9
So it's stealth that he use now instead of melting into the shadows?

Yeah, unless I missed writers suddenly bringing that power back after his "resurrection".

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, unless I missed writers suddenly bringing that power back after his "resurrection".

Has it actually been retconned?

^^^Good question.
As far as i can tell its just ignored for some reason.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Has it actually been retconned?

Don't think so. Nobody ever cared enough to clear up that mess.

Sigh.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't think so. Nobody ever cared enough to clear up that mess.

Sigh.

So like Colossus with magic, then. Shame.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So like Colossus with magic, then. Shame.

People actually like Nightcrawler, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So like Colossus with magic, then. Shame.

Oh wow, I'D forgotten that. 😂

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, unless I missed writers suddenly bringing that power back after his "resurrection".

Has an instance come up where its been mentioned

Sin for you.

It was post-Axis, right?

Axis Revolutions #2.

Nightcrawler's character is vastly changed. REVERSED, you might say.

Carver once more does not understand the difference between 'in character' and using their abilities to the fullest.

Flash and Superman have heightened reactions. If you play a game, and realise mid game that your tactics are not working, you have the reaction speeds to switch tactics.

They are using their abilities to the fullest - but it does not mean they start the match with the intent to kill. they just have the ability to switch tactics quicker than their opponents, usually.

Nightcrawler has the same powerset - but not the character.