Originally posted by KingD19
It's not BFR. He teleports and is back a split second later. It's not like he teleports to his dimension and just hangs out there.
Then Zoom/Barry et all time travelling to the past to kill them as they're babies (admittedly, more a Zoom thing lol) is perfectly legal, as they can return to the battlefield the very moment they left - timey wimey!!!
Originally posted by KingD19
Seriously. The way Kurt fights will have Nightwing on edge. And he's proven plenty of times if he needs to or just feels like it, he can end a fight instantly by jumping you around. Dick has no defense against that, and unless you can prove he has no way of even so much as touching him with Kurt's superior...everything aside from h2h skills, and an unpredictable third arm. You're lying.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Riv's gonna keep riving
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then Zoom/Barry et all time travelling to the past to kill them as they're babies (admittedly, more a Zoom thing lol) is perfectly legal, as they can return to the battlefield the very moment they left - timey wimey!!!
Okay I never mentioned Zoom. But that's not correct. Traveling through time to stop a fight from ever starting by killing someone in the past would be considered a BFR.
Teleporting from Point A to Point B two feet to the left in the span of a second isn't.
Originally posted by riv6672
And you're charming.
You cant read very well, but, you're charming.
Classic NC can and has been hit.I never get tired of being right. And fair to both characters. And right.
Clearly you can't read very well. Because if you could, you'd realize in my post I was saying unless you can prove Nightwing has a way to not get hit by Kurt at all, then he has no defense against his teleportation blitz. As all he needs to do is touch him. And he has two arms, two legs, and a prehensile tail strong enough to lift and throw grown men like ragdolls.
Originally posted by KingD19
Okay I never mentioned Zoom. But that's not correct. Traveling through time to stop a fight from ever starting by killing someone in the past would be considered a BFR.Teleporting from Point A to Point B two feet to the left in the span of a second isn't.
What's the difference? 😛
Bear in mind, I am simply trying to initiate a discussion about forum rules.
From the battlefield's point of view, Zoom for example would never have left the field. 1 picosecond he's there, the next, he blinks out, then is back again. All in the blink of an eye.
He's left the battlefield, true. But so has Nightcrawler.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's the difference? 😛Bear in mind, I am simply trying to initiate a discussion about forum rules.
From the battlefield's point of view, Zoom for example would never have left the field. 1 picosecond he's there, the next, he blinks out, then is back again. All in the blink of an eye.
He's left the battlefield, true. But so has Nightcrawler.
Zoom using his speed to move around the battlefield wouldn't be BFR. But using his speed to actually not only leave the area, but go through time and outcome the effect of the fight is Self-BFR and cheating. As he actually has to leave, go somewhere else, do a thing, and then come back.
Teleportation is simply one of Kurt's powers that can be used in a fight., and it just so happens to need to go through another dimension to work, as 99% of teleporation in comics does. Counting that would count any teleporter using their powers as bfr. Or anyone who can fly going up into the air while their opponent is still on the ground.
^^^Haha 👆
For the record, i've no problem changing my mind on the outcome of a thread (6/10 either way in this case). I just havent seen anything in this thread to compel me to do so:
The erroneous opinion that NC simply cant be touched.
That it takes enhanced senses to track his 'ports.
References to versions of NC that arent applicable here.
Feats he could perform if he were fighting out of character (blood lusted or under CBR rules).
So, fairly even split it is.
Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Haha 👆For the record, i've no problem changing my mind on the outcome of a thread (6/10 either way in this case). I just havent seen anything in this thread to compel me to do so:
The erroneous opinion that NC simply cant be touched.
That it takes enhanced senses to track his 'ports.
References to versions of NC that arent applicable here.
Feats he could perform if he were fighting out of character (blood lusted or under CBR rules).
So, fairly even split it is.
Well it does take enhanced senses as evidenced by dd, if, sabes etc..noone said he cant be touched (at least no serious poster). all it takes is a port and nw is either winded or out of the match. Not sure if you're just trolling or just completely out of touch with the characters
Well it does take enhanced senses
(at least no serious poster)
Not sure if you're just trolling or just completely out of touch with the characters
Originally posted by riv6672
Iron Fist does it with common sense, and smelling brimstone.
If you think it takes enhanced senses to smell brimstone, or that Batman's top student lacks common sense, thats on you.Nooice.
Neither.
What i am is dealing with posters who arent capable of changing their minds on a subject, and get progressively more irate in the face of simple truths.
Luckily, that tends to be pretty entertaining.
Naw...what Im gathering is you kmow nothing of the character. Theres an atmospheric shift when nc ports. You need enhanced senses to pick that up. Which is what rand has. You dont just smell brimstone or sulfur and automatically know which direction he's coming from..its not that hard to understand. Quit reaching and take the L