Nightcrawler Vs Nightwing

Originally posted by riv6672
See, great scans, very entertaining. 👆

And if i wanted to i could post scans of NW doing cool things to opponents and claim thats how the fight would go.
And we'd both be right, because this is a close fight. Fairly even split.

Would NW's opponents have the rough analogous powers to Kurt?

So for example, Omega Red has super strength, speed (travelling and reaction), agility, ranged physical powers, plus some fighting skills. He's no Nightwing, that's for sure, but he DOES have a HF to let him hang in there. But the point here is, Kurt beat him by outreacting him, then porting into the sky (this ignores his disorientation).

NW's cool scans (which I would love to see, btw) - would his opponents still have lost if they had Kurt's powers/skills? I would say that even if OR had a massive bump in skills to Nightwing's level, he still would have lost the exact same way, for example.

Well, like you said, your scans werent NW. Mine wouldnt be NC.
I see where you're going with this, and i've seen you do it to others quite brilliantly.
You're doing (well) what Carver did (badly) a page ago when he asked someone to post a scan of NW getting hit by thugs.
Still, since i'm not playing the "NW stomps easily" game, but instead saying its a good fairly even fight that can go either way, i'm fine with the tactic.

Again, i've seen nothing in 6 pages to make me think NC would take a significant majority.

👆

Originally posted by riv6672
Well, like you said, your scans werent NW. Mine wouldnt be NC.
I see where you're going with this, and i've seen you do it to others quite brilliantly.
You're doing (well) what Carver did (badly) a page ago when he asked someone to post a scan of NW getting hit by thugs.
Still, since i'm not playing the "NW stomps easily" game, but instead saying its a good fairly even fight that can go either way, i'm fine with the tactic.

Again, i've seen nothing in 6 pages to make me think NC would take a significant majority.

You're saying that it's an even fight because you made the thread. Nightwing doesn't win a single match.

Well this thread was interesting till it got trolled.

Anyway great scans ds

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Well this thread was interesting till it got trolled.

Originally posted by carver9
You're saying that it's an even fight because you made the thread. Nightwing doesn't win a single match.

Riv is changing his sig quicker than NC ports.

Dick is lucky he's not fighting riv here.

And Kurt is lucky he's not fighting Batman.

Doing a new sig every day for Black History month. Then back to my usual random pics.

Very specific thing about classic Kurt was that he - consistently - drained stamina from his foes after teleporting. To the point of knocking them out or severely weakening them.

Nowadays, it gets either ignored or most of his enemies/allies are already used to it, having faced/trained with Kurt dozens of times before.

Duncan was great as KP, btw.

He passed away so young.
And yeah, his Kingpin was a high point of a mostly average Daredevil movie outing.

Originally posted by riv6672
Agreed. Carver's letting his anger cloud his opinion.

Wasnt talking about carver

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Very specific thing about classic Kurt was that he - consistently - drained stamina from his foes after teleporting. To the point of knocking them out or severely weakening them.

Nowadays, it gets either ignored or most of his enemies/allies are already used to it, having faced/trained with Kurt dozens of times before.

Duncan was great as KP, btw.

Grayson doesn't have the luxury of training with him or building up ths stamina. Does anyone have a viable argument for nw winning? Id love to hear it

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Wasnt talking about carver
Oooooooh....!
Grayson doesn't have the luxury of training with him or building up ths stamina.
Neither did Iron Fist.
Does anyone have a viable argument for nw winning?
Been giving it over and over.
Id love to hear it
No, you wouldnt. 😛
Your whole argument consists of NC fighting out of character and blitz porting right off the bat, ignoring the fact that the version being debated was often hit in battle, and acting like calling this fight fairly even is somehow saying NC gets stomped.
But hey, i'll be checking in this afternoon, by all means keep posting into the wind

Sigh. We already discussed if. Rand has enhanced senses. It's already been shown characters with enhanced senses can predict his ports so unless you can prove dick has enhanced senses you make no point.

Secondly if youd read any of his encounters thats how nc fights. He ports all over you till you're down. Shrugs. You seriously should brush up

NC wins every round.

@Sin
Haha, you're really pushing the posted scan as IF using heightened senses as opposed to skill and good training, IE, something NW couldnt replicate?
Nooice. Very entertaining.
Looks like the posting you're doing into the wind is blowing all over Carver, too. 🙂

Originally posted by riv6672
@Sin
Haha, you're really pushing the posted scan as IF using heightened senses as opposed to skill and good training, IE, something NW couldnt replicate?
Nooice. Very entertaining.
Looks like the posting you're doing into the wind is blowing all over Carver, too. 🙂

Well would you care to post a scan showing nightwing outreacting a teleporter...or better yet having skills on par with Iron Fist? U can even give an issue number id look it up myself

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^Haha 👆

For the record, i've no problem changing my mind on the outcome of a thread (6/10 either way in this case). I just havent seen anything in this thread to compel me to do so:
The erroneous opinion that NC simply cant be touched.
That it takes enhanced senses to track his 'ports.
References to versions of NC that arent applicable here.
Feats he could perform if he were fighting out of character (blood lusted or under CBR rules).
So, fairly even split it is.

Not really. It isn't that 'Crawler can't be touched, just that he's not likely to be, all things considered.

He does have enhanced durability, btw.

Unlike some certain soft dick.

Plus, my scans were of normal Kurt AFAIK.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus, my scans were of normal Kurt AFAIK.

Normal, sure, but if one wants to nitpick, one can say modern =/= classic, because of experience and blahblahblah.

Classic Kurt wouldn't have the strength to telespam Red after being tortured.