Originally posted by One-PunchThe bolded part is specifically what we're arguing about.
According to abhi, Rune was never empowered by the IG in the first place.
Then he flip flopped his argument to the Soul Gem purposely sabotaging Rune by depowering him
the moment Surfer came in, which there's no evidence of.
Originally posted by One-PunchRune "struggling" with the soul gem over whether to leave to the Ultraverse doesn't prove he was depowered.
It doesn't prove any of what abhi is claiming (e.g., Soul Gem sabotaging Rune and cutting off his connection to the gems).
Originally posted by One-PunchThe fact that only after Surfer blew up Rune's IG hand,
Rune said "The gems lost in the vortex! My power--gone!" indicates
Rune was still powered by the IG to some degree when Surfer came in.
If he had already been "depowered" by the soul gem he wouldn't have said this.
Originally posted by One-PunchAgain I ask, why would the Soul Gem purposely sabotage it's only means of transport at the time
by [b]depowering Rune the moment Surfer came in? [/B]
But, Rune was either unable to utilize the IG effectively when Surfer showed up,
due to the fact Surfer was able to physically affect Rune (eg. charring his hand/impacting the glove)
Or, Rune miscalculated Surfer's herald status and didn't use sufficient force against Surfer when he blasted him.
I mean, Rune did highlight how this was 'the merest fraction of his power' ...
We'll never know exactly what that "fraction" was, but we have no choice but to place it around herald level.
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There's justification behind my opinion.
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Like I stated earlier, Rune was not operating the IG to optimal capabilities when facing Surfer, without a doubt.
Rune using only the Time Gem, ... froze the entire "Time-Stream."
The "Time-Stream" is the Dimension from where All of "Time" can be observed, and even affected.
So Rune froze "Time" across all TimelineS! (with a thought)
LT stated that the reason he was untouched by the Time Gem's affect
was cause he "Transcends the realm of Space & Time, All the opposing RealitieS"
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The LT saved Surfer's ass too! 👆
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The only other existence untouched was Warlock.
Who as we all know is beyond the influence of Space-Time.
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The Marvel Time-stream is the Multiversal push of "Time" towards Entropy.
This is why All TimelineS are subject to the Time-stream! (proof below)
(there's plenty more of that ... from a variety of stories, just let me know)
Timelines are entire separate Universes/Eternity/Infinity
like Guardians of the Galaxy's Reality 691,
which is the 31st Century, a possible Future of an infinite number.
616 is the universe/timeline occupying the present Time.
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Now I must submit, the Gem was sentient, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it acted solely.
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Now ... that was one Gem ... with a multiveral feat, which would've owned Surfer as well had LT not interfered.
You see where I'm going, you see my point, I'm sure. You're a good debater, let this one go.
Originally posted by Surtur
Abi Delta gave me some butthurt cream, you want it man? Silly rabbit didn't know I sit on a special cushion for my back pain so my butt is A Okay. Yours is not and I just want to help you out.
Originally posted by Magnificent M
Why is OP debating so fiercely for GLs to win?
Isn't the point to create a balanced and fair fight, and then leave it up to the others to debate?
If you've already made up your mind, why bother at all, unless your only agenda is to smear the other character and its supporters?
Originally posted by Surtur
Yes that is certainly a valid question. Who makes a fight if you are going to be so vehemently against one side winning?Now see if other people make bait threads people will immediately call them on it, but those same posters don't seem to show up in threads like this to point it out, even though it's pretty plain to see this just stemmed from "butthurt" about Silver Surfer in general. It's like "If I can't convince people Superman can beat Surfer then who is next on the list? Oh Green Lanterns, okay".
The same people who will show up to call others pathetic, etc. are..strangely absent. Or if they do show up it's certainly not to chastise anyone.
I've just posted a bunch of feats for Lanterns. If Surtur is feeling butthurt about his claim of GLs as "Surfer lite", I'm not responsible for that.
Put up or shut up.
Originally posted by abhilegend
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Why does Surfer fans throw a tantrum everytime their idol is concerned?I've just posted a bunch of feats for Lanterns. If Surtur is feeling butthurt about his claim of GLs as "Surfer lite", I'm not responsible for that.
Put up or shut up.
Don't forget his circular arguments.
The point I was trying to make was, why bother creating a thread/fight, which is supposed to be balanced and fair in the first place, if your mind is already made up?
Be honest about it at least, put a blurb about how you think GL is superior in the OP and challange other's to prove you wrong.
Everyone has favourites and bias towards them, that's only natural
Not to mention, being quite confrontational about it. That's not directed at you alone either, abhi, but everyone who's acting like residents of the local sandbox.
For what it's worth, I don't really follow either GL or Surfer to form an informed opinion, but from what I've read in this thread, I think the GLs out-performs Surfer.
Originally posted by Magnificent M
The point I was trying to make was, why bother creating a thread/fight, which is supposed to be balanced and fair in the first place, if your mind is already made up?
Be honest about it at least, put a blurb about how you think GL is superior in the OP and challange other's to prove you wrong.
Everyone has favourites and bias towards them, that's only naturalNot to mention, being quite confrontational about it. That's not directed at you alone either, abhi, but everyone who's acting like residents of the local sandbox.
For what it's worth, I don't really follow either GL or Surfer to form an informed opinion, but from what I've read in this thread, I think the GLs out-performs Surfer.
I can respect that. I'm not trying to antagonize anyone here BTW.
Originally posted by Magnificent M99% of the posters who make a thread already have their mind made up, and 98% don't specify it.
The point I was trying to make was, why bother creating a thread/fight, which is supposed to be balanced and fair in the first place, if your mind is already made up?
Be honest about it at least, put a blurb about how you think GL is superior in the OP and challange other's to prove you wrong.
Everyone has favourites and bias towards them, that's only naturalNot to mention, being quite confrontational about it. That's not directed at you alone either, abhi, but everyone who's acting like residents of the local sandbox.
For what it's worth, I don't really follow either GL or Surfer to form an informed opinion, but from what I've read in this thread, I think the GLs out-performs Surfer.
How is this any different?
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