Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern

Originally posted by One-Punch
Abhi, first you argued that Rune was never empowered by the IG in the first place.

Did I? Where?

Then you were proven utterly wrong with multiple pages of on-panel evidence of Rune being powered by the IG:

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Do you even know how to read?

Now you're saying IG did power Rune, but rebelled and depowered him right before he fought Surfer.

That's exactly what happened.

If only you knew how to read.

Dude, which is it? You're flip-flopping all over the place, your own arguments contradict each other. It's obvious you're trying very desperately to pull any excuse out of your arse to dismiss this feat. 😂

baka

You know damn well what I'm talking about.

Since you're claiming Rune was depowered, how about you give me a direct quote where it says Rune was depowered or cut-off from the IG (hint: there is none).

Yes, there is. The gems flat out say that he is not the master but they are.

What do you think that means?

You've ignored the [b]5 on-panel statements that suggest Rune was empowered by the IG, including the one where Rune himself says he's empowered.

Before he thought he was master of the gems and they rebelled.

You are just parroting now.

You can't account for the fact that Rune said he lost his power after Surfer blew up his IG hand and scattered the gems. (E.g., "my power--gone!"😉.
If he wasn't powered by the IG why would Rune say his power was gone after Surfer destroyed his IG hand? [/B]

Because his actual power was gone. Do you want me to post scans from Curse of Rune now?

But it's good to know that Surfer and Ebony Blade are more powerful than IG.

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Gentlemen, concerning the Rune debate:

abhi is actually right on this one. ... Sorry fellas, Mr M keeps it real.

His only error is stating Rune was "de-powered" which he was not exactly, though it made little difference
cause Rune was unable to use his infinite power affectively when Surfer popped up.

The Gems became sentient, and were using Rune as a pawn to get to the Ultraverse to find the Ego Gem.
That was their core objective, to form Nemesis. Gems did more fiasco in the Ultraverse as-well to reunite.

Rune was depicted as losing control before getting zapped by Surfer. Surfer recognized this fact btw.

Rune never had a chance under these stipulated circumstances. stoned

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*edit ... note: Prior to this dilemma, Rune performed a god-like feat.

Originally posted by abhilegend

But it's good to know that Surfer and Ebony Blade are more powerful than IG.

My hat is off to Mr. Master 👆

Originally posted by Mr Master
Gentlemen, concerning the Rune debate:

abhi is actually right on this one. ... Sorry fellas, Mr M keeps it real.

His only error is stating Rune was "de-powered" which he was not exactly, though it made little difference
cause Rune was unable to use his infinite power affectively when Surfer popped up.

The Gems became sentient, and were using Rune as a pawn to get to the Ultraverse to find the Ego Gem.
That was their core objective, to form Nemesis. Gems did more fiasco in the Ultraverse as-well to reunite.

Rune was depicted as losing control before getting zapped by Surfer. Surfer recognized this fact btw.

Rune never had a chance under these stipulated circumstances. stoned

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*edit ... note: Prior to this dilemma, Rune performed a god-like feat.

Nothing wrong with healthy disagreement, as long as the arguments are actually coherent and rational. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master

His only error is stating Rune was "de-powered" which he was not exactly, though it made little difference
cause Rune was unable to use his infinite power affectively when Surfer popped up.

The Gems became sentient, and were using Rune as a pawn to get to the Ultraverse to find the Ego Gem.
That was their core objective, to form Nemesis. Gems did more fiasco in the Ultraverse as-well to reunite.

Rune was depicted as losing control before getting zapped by Surfer. Surfer recognized this fact btw.]

Rune never had a chance under these stipulated circumstances. stoned

The fact that only after Surfer blew up Rune's IG hand, Rune said "The gems lost in the vortex! My power--gone!" indicates Rune was still powered by the IG to some degree when Surfer came in. If he had already been "depowered" by the soul gem he wouldn't have said this.

Again I ask, why would the Soul Gem purposely sabotage it's only means of transport at the time by depowering Rune the moment Surfer came in?

I need to clarify some misleading cropped scans (mixing Rune and Surfer's perspectives) originally posted by abhi.

Originally posted by Mr Master

^ These cropped scans imply Surfer blew up Rune's IG hand while he was distracted with his "struggle" with the Soul Gem.

This IS NOT the case, let me post the full un-cropped scans in sequence.

Here Rune is "struggling" with the Soul Gem. Surfer notices Rune's struggling and blasts him (cropped scan above). Rune tanks the blast and fires his own at Surfer.
Note: at this point Rune and the Soul Gem stopped struggling and Rune was complying with the Soul Gem's command to escape to the Ultraverse.

Surfer tanks the blast from Rune, and just as Rune is about to escape into the vortex to the Ultraverse, Surfer destroys his IG hand and scatters the Gems.

^As noted earlier, at this point Rune was not struggling with the Soul Gem and was in full compliance with the Soul Gem's orders of escaping into the Ultraverse.

Finally, Rune says the loss of the gems has cost him his power, which implies he was indeed powered by the IG when Surfer came in.

This instance I posted is all from Rune's perspective, and not cropped or mixed in with Surfer's perspective.

Originally posted by One-Punch
I need to clarify some misleading cropped scans (mixing Rune and Surfer's perspectives) originally posted by abhi.

Like I said you are mixing everything together to make it like Rune had the full power of IG when Surfer beat him.

The comic points out quite the opposite.

^ These cropped scans imply Surfer blew up Rune's IG hand while he was distracted with his "struggle" with the Soul Gem.

[b]This IS NOT the case, let me post the full un-cropped scans in sequence.

You are posting the scans of the second story in the very same comic.

Not the one where you posted the initial scans.

Here Rune is "struggling" with the Soul Gem. Surfer notices Rune's struggling and blasts him (cropped scan above). Rune tanks the blast and fires his own at Surfer.
Note: at this point Rune and the Soul Gem stopped struggling and Rune was complying with the Soul Gem's command to escape to the Ultraverse.

Quite hilariously, you are the one who is posting and belittling your own cause.

In the very same comic, Deathurge no sold a blast from Surfer like nothing.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/62547/3461761-2598683-silversurfer_rune_37.jpg

Deathurge>IG.

Wow, I never knew IG was so weaksauce.

Surfer tanks the blast from Rune, and just as Rune is about to escape into the vortex to the Ultraverse, Surfer destroys his IG hand and scatters the Gems.

He was calling himself their master.

That's what was the cause of the gems cutting him of the power.

[quote]^As noted earlier, at this point Rune was not struggling with the Soul Gem and was in full compliance with the Soul Gem's orders of escaping into the Ultraverse.

Finally, Rune says the loss of the gems has cost him his power, which implies he was indeed powered by the IG when Surfer came in.

This instance I posted is all from Rune's perspective, and not cropped or mixed in with Surfer's perspective. [/B]

If only you knew what he was talking about "My power gone."

Rune was talking about his own power which were restricted by Soul Gem. That's why he says "My power gone." And as soon as the gem is removed his power returns.

Originally posted by One-Punch

[b]Defeats Rune with the IG by blowing up his IG hand with an energy blast. Rune with just the time gem alone froze the 616 time stream.
http://postimg.org/image/asb35n46v/
http://postimg.org/image/on9do3ylz/
http://postimg.org/image/8rkjkt81j/

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Not at all surprising for a character like Surfer 🏄 because he continuously punches far beyond his weight class.. A herald who is generally regarded as belonging to the cream of the crop usually pulls out shiet like this every now and then. It really is just par for the course.

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So any real feat for surfer matching up to this?

Originally posted by abhilegend
This one is again a doozy. Kyle and Anarky reverse the reality manipulation of entire universe done by Aberration and then overload him with sheer raw power.

Or this?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just for a random tidbit, Kyle blasts a hole through Neron. A bonafide skyfather.

Never saw Surfer pulling anything like this to Mephisto.

mmm

Or this?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16112869/dcu2000secretfiles1p336gb.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16112870/dcu2000secretfiles1p368nd.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16112871/dcu2000secretfiles1p370nr.jpg.html

Abi Delta gave me some butthurt cream, you want it man? Silly rabbit didn't know I sit on a special cushion for my back pain so my butt is A Okay. Yours is not and I just want to help you out.

Why is OP debating so fiercely for GLs to win?
Isn't the point to create a balanced and fair fight, and then leave it up to the others to debate?
If you've already made up your mind, why bother at all, unless your only agenda is to smear the other character and its supporters?

Yes that is certainly a valid question. Who makes a fight if you are going to be so vehemently against one side winning?

Now see if other people make bait threads people will immediately call them on it, but those same posters don't seem to show up in threads like this to point it out, even though it's pretty plain to see this just stemmed from "butthurt" about Silver Surfer in general. It's like "If I can't convince people Superman can beat Surfer then who is next on the list? Oh Green Lanterns, okay".

The same people who will show up to call others pathetic, etc. are..strangely absent. Or if they do show up it's certainly not to chastise anyone.

Abhi, this is a biased thread, you pathetic poster.

I think it's fine if you have an agenda. That's really the point for most threads anyway. Abhi's fire is a welcome thing in these forums.

Now when characters or feats are misrepresented... That's a whole different issue. This goes for anyone.

The point is to debate, which is usually hard to do if one side has gone into it having already made up their mind.

Plus I am a Superman fan so if I saw someone saying a character beats him I could begin an "agenda" of putting people in their place by making a bunch of fights that are epic stomps in favor of him. Superman vs Spider-Man, Superman vs Killer Croc. It would certainly be an agenda on my part, but it'd also be quite asinine.

Or I could take the character someone said could beat Superman and put them in a bunch of fights I know the character would lose horribly in. So you said Hulk could beat Superman? Oh well now it's time for Living Tribunal vs Hulk.

It's times like this when I miss bluewater and his devil serpent kryptonians.

That guy was a hoot.

Originally posted by One-Punch

Nothing wrong with healthy disagreement, as long as the arguments are actually coherent and rational.

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