Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern

Originally posted by carver9
I don't know. Back on topic. Stardust survives a planet exploding on him. Tanks it and then creates a Black hole with ease afterward.

http://m.imgur.com/Dql1WcW?r
http://m.imgur.com/vyCOPPV?r

The reason why you have such a problem with reading comprehension is your incompetence. You use stuff for GLs other than the topic when it suits you, then when it's done here, you play the victim and try to act like you're just doing this in response, in an obvious attempt not to look like the hypocrite you are.

Is this an energy projection feat?

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer can do it as well. Both are Heralds of Galactus. Nice showing.

Considering the very comic Surfer said about it rekindling her, and I've seen things saying Surfer is powered by stars, so even if this is an energy based feat, you're arguing something amped. Do you want to go there?

Also, I'd like you to reply to my response to your argument that you clearly ignored here. 😠

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=631150&pagenumber=14

Originally posted by Sin I AM
It's not shown. She could have done any number of things like energy overload or simply aged it. But after it exploded it turned into a black hole iirc. And nova is fueled by the power cosmic. Not stars

Surfer specifically said it'd rekindle her, so it's pretty likely it was powering her.

I've seen similar statements about Surfer and stars before, as well.

As for it being a black hole, yeah, it turned into one, but if you look at what's stated, unless he was NOT talking about the star, he says whatever she's doing is burning it's fuel, so all indications are whatever she did sped-up its death.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Surfer specifically said it'd rekindle her, so it's pretty likely it was powering her.

I've seen similar statements about Surfer and stars before, as well.

As for it being a black hole, yeah, it turned into one, but if you look at what's stated, unless he was NOT talking about the star, he says whatever she's doing is burning it's fuel, so all indications are whatever she did sped-up its death.

I think you're misinterpreting the scan Delta. The planets were depowering her. So once the sun was destroyed her waning power would return

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think you're misinterpreting the scan Delta. The planets were depowering her. So once the sun was destroyed her waning power would return

Regardless, he's presenting something that may or may not qualify. If he thinks it's an energy based feat but admits he can't prove it, could be filed under "maybe." If he says it is definitively, burden of proof is on him.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Regardless, he's presenting something that may or may not qualify. If he thinks it's an energy based feat but admits he can't prove it, could be filed under "maybe." If he says it is definitively, burden of proof is on him.

Im confused. What would he need to prove? That she performed an energy attack on the sun? She dove into it and looked to cause it to go nova. Trying to see what you're asking

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im confused. What would he need to prove? That she performed an energy attack on the sun? She dove into it and looked to cause it to go nova. Trying to see what you're asking

Topic is about energy projection feats. If he doesn't know what Nova did to cause that, then it's an assumption it's an energy feat.

Originally posted by Delta1938
The reason why you have such a problem with reading comprehension is your incompetence. You use stuff for GLs other than the topic when it suits you, then when it's done here, you play the victim and try to act like you're just doing this in response, in an obvious attempt not to look like the hypocrite you are.

Is this an energy projection feat?

Considering the very comic Surfer said about it rekindling her, and I've seen things saying Surfer is powered by stars, so even if this is an energy based feat, you're arguing something amped. Do you want to go there?

Also, I'd like you to reply to my response to your argument that you clearly ignored here. 😠

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=631150&pagenumber=14

I'm using Herald fts here for Surfer. I think it's a fair trade. You can try to change the subject to something else if you want but it doesn't change the fact that Herald fts will be used for Surfer since Hal and Kyle get all of the entirety of the Lanterns ft. Comprehend that.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Regardless, he's presenting something that may or may not qualify. If he thinks it's an energy based feat but admits he can't prove it, could be filed under "maybe." If he says it is definitively, burden of proof is on him.

The ft belongs to Surfer based off your debating style.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm using Herald fts here for Surfer. I think it's a fair trade. You can try to change the subject to something else if you want but it doesn't change the fact that Herald fts will be used for Surfer since Hal and Kyle get all of the entirety of the Lanterns ft. Comprehend that.

Prove they're energy feats or concede. Even if you prove it, there's already been feats from lesser, even random GLs, that are much more impressive.

It's not changing the subject to point-out you cry about sharing feats when it goes against you and then use it when it helps you, and your presentation here was a poor attempt not to look like the hypocrite you are. The issue is YOUR comprehension, not mine.

And are you going to visit my response to you in the other thread? Yes or no? Not responding will be accepted as you don't want to and don't want to admit you're avoiding it.

Originally posted by carver9
The ft belongs to Surfer based off your debating style.

Is this because you just look at the pretty pictures?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Prove they're energy feats or concede. Even if you prove it, there's already been feats from lesser, even random GLs, that are much more impressive.

It's not changing the subject to point-out you cry about sharing feats when it goes against you and then use it when it helps you, and your presentation here was a poor attempt not to look like the hypocrite you are. The issue is YOUR comprehension, not mine.

And are you going to visit my response to you in the other thread? Yes or no? Not responding will be accepted as you don't want to and don't want to admit you're avoiding it.

Is this because you just look at the pretty pictures?

This post doesn't make one bit of sense. I'm sure I wasn't crossing your mind when you posted scans of GLs that have nothing to do with this thread. When I tell you this, please listen. I don't care if you use scans of the entire GL corporation against 1 character but do not get mad when someone use other Heralds for Surfer. Do you get it now? I.do.not.care if you use 100s of GLs against Surfer but be prepared for someone to do the same for the Surfer. You can keep crying all day long about the things you've said I have done but that doesn't have a thing to do with what I am telling you.

So again, proceed at posting Grog, John and whomever else you want to use against Surfer but know that it is unfair and unrealistic for Surfer to defeat an entire corporation on his lonesome. I'm sure your next post is going to be whining, then insults, then more r Kelly whining. With that said, we are done here. You can have the last word. I'm currently looking for more Herald scans.

Originally posted by carver9
This post doesn't make one bit of sense. I'm sure I wasn't crossing your mind when you posted scans of GLs that have nothing to do with this thread. When I tell you this, please listen. I don't care if you use scans of the entire GL corporation against 1 character but do not get mad when someone use other Heralds for Surfer. Do you get it now? I.do.not.care if you use 100s of GLs against Surfer but be prepared for someone to do the same for the Surfer. You can keep crying all day long about the things you've said I have done but that doesn't have a thing to do with what I am telling you.

So again, proceed at posting Grog, John and whomever else you want to use against Surfer but know that it is unfair and unrealistic for Surfer to defeat an entire corporation on his lonesome. I'm sure your next post is going to be whining, then insults, then more r Kelly whining. With that said, we are done here. You can have the last word. I'm currently looking for more Herald scans.

😆 You think I was mad. You continue to fail.

Still waiting for proof both are energy based feats.

K, you know you lost in the other thread.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Surfer created a black hole as a simply side effect of his blast when destroying a planet

That's not true.

The Black Hole wasn't generated by him destroying the planet, it was from him purposely warping Air-Walker's dying body into a black hole.

Don't leave pages out/twist information just to fit the agenda. C'mon now..

Originally posted by Philosophía

That's not true.

The Black Hole wasn't generated by him destroying the planet, it was from him purposely warping Air-Walker's dying body into a black hole.

Don't leave pages out/twist information just to fit the agenda. C'mon now..

Have the issue reference?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Have the issue reference?

Thanks!!

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Who's crying?

Post the rest of that scene, but you really don't have to cause for 1 it's a shared feat with one character involved not being a GL and 2 the supposed black hole barely existed, if you know anything about them you'd know their lifespan and scharzschild radius are dependent of their mass and lastly, it's said "the edge of a black hole" so it really depends what the writer is going for there

The funniest part is that Surfer could oneshot Krona if you take that dubious claim at face value

So, psycho gundam, is there anything that makes this just a Surfer feat with this scan that wasn't included?

I only skimmed the issue, so it's possible, but isn't looking good. If there isn't anything, this makes it quite ironic what you said.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, psycho gundam, is there anything that makes this just a Surfer feat with this scan that wasn't included?

I only skimmed the issue, so it's possible, but isn't looking good. If there isn't anything, this makes it quite ironic what you said.

Not only that, but the feat certainly wasn't unintentional, as psycho gundam implied. He purposely warped the dying Air Walker into a blackhole, to not let his body be disgraced by the Annihilation Wave.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Anyway, both black hole feats are fine and all, but what I think you're missing is the intent: Surfer's black hole was a side effect of his blast power whereas Oblivion's creations (I'm aware of his origin) were intentional.

This is kinda like why people went crazy back when Hulk's footsteps were about to make 1/5 of the United states star in the sequel to Titanic, something Black bolt has had to use his voice to replicate in scale was simply a byproduct of Hulk's casual advance forward.

Yes, and how much of it was even Surfer is questionable, since it'd almost certainly include the energy in Air-Walker's body.

I'm being nice and giving him a chance to prove there's something I missed, but I highly doubt it. If there's something else that proves what he claimed, I'd think he'd have already included it.

And this with all he's said about Abhi. Pot has a message for the kettle.

The comic flat out states that the bh was "brought about" by an "energy discharge" from Surfer.

Plus Air Walker was practically dead. That's a funny way of looking at it if anyone suggests that a practically dead Air Walker had a huge part in it.

PG mentioning planet leads me to believe that he mixed up Surfer's other feat in the same series when he blew up the planet he and Ravenous were on.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The comic flat out states that the bh was "brought about" by an "energy discharge" from Surfer.

Plus Air Walker was practically dead. That's a funny way of looking at it if anyone suggests that a practically dead Air Walker had a huge part in it.

PG mentioning planet leads me to believe that he mixed up Surfer's other feat in the same series when he blew up the planet he and Ravenous were on.

So you're arguing Air-Walker had zero energy left?