Pre-Flashpoint Weird Vs Kyle Raynor

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Originally posted by Galan007
Duplicates. 🙁

Here's the scene:

Oops. 😮 Thanks, didn't notice.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Leave this topic with your BS DC bias, Phildo!! 😠

Given that both combatants are DC then such a bias should harm no one here.

Originally posted by beatboks
Given that both combatants are DC then such a bias should harm no one here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
J'onn punches him from behind and then gets owned with just one punch.
http://i.imgur.com/J20FpIP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dGH9X2C.jpg

LMAO.

This was probably revenge for the future trolling J'onn would dish out to Aquaman.

Originally posted by beatboks

I don't however think that Weird was punching on SM level. he was hwoever delivering blows that anyone short of Supes would have ahd issues with (MMH <<<< Supes)

My friend, thems fighting words. 🙂

Martian Manhunter may not be the second coming, and he may have had his bad showings (You want to make a list of low end showings for Superman?), but he's also had his share of great ones..

John Ostranders run had him doing a man vs team stand off every bit as impressive as the one its claimed weird did (I won't even pretend to remember what happened, after the holes already proven to be poked in my memory. Gonna have to re-read that story..)

My point is, a lot of characters have the "beat the league" moments. Hal's had his, J'onn's had his, and Batman does it every other week.. 😛

But at the end of the day, how buff is Weird, really? Can he beat down Superman? Black Adam? Wonder Woman?

Not in a "league tries to contain him" scenario, but all out.

I mean, if we go by Doomsday Wars, Doomsday on average beats Orion, WW, GL, and Flash at the same time, and that's seriously lowballing them as a team, let alone individually..

Martian Manhunter is strong as ****. His shitty showings don't really reflect a lack of strength so much as it shows that his durability is complete crap. In fact I can't really remember any low showings of his strength besides maybe the Doomsday showing but that could just be his arthritis hands.

It's even worse that he's extremely malleable too, which should only make him harder to hurt. He's pretty much the textbook definition of glass cannon

I think its literally the 'jobber' effect. A guy brought in to make guys look good. He has massive amount of power, so naturally it takes a top tier guy to take him down, then Wondy or Supes takes down that guy. No one would really have a problem with that if it wasn't brutal asswhippings every time.

But he seems to be getting a better showing overall in New52.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Martian Manhunter is strong as ****. His shitty showings don't really reflect a lack of strength so much as it shows that his durability is complete crap. In fact I can't really remember any low showings of his strength besides maybe the Doomsday showing but that could just be his arthritis hands.

It's even worse that he's extremely malleable too, which should only make him harder to hurt. He's pretty much the textbook definition of glass cannon

It's funny how Plastic Man is basically immune to physical damage, but MM isn't.

Except under Ostrander. There, a guy said to be stronger then Superman and built like Hulk punches him into the ground, and J'onn simply expands around his arm and engulfs him.

Weird wins

Originally posted by cdtm
It's funny how Plastic Man is basically immune to physical damage, but MM isn't.

Except under Ostrander. There, a guy said to be stronger then Superman and built like Hulk punches him into the ground, and J'onn simply expands around his arm and engulfs him.


And under Ostrander himself, Black Adam beat the shit out of him in just four punches.

👆

Originally posted by cdtm
My friend, thems fighting words. 🙂

Martian Manhunter may not be the second coming, and he may have had his bad showings (You want to make a list of low end showings for Superman?), but he's also had his share of great ones..

John Ostranders run had him doing a man vs team stand off every bit as impressive as the one its claimed weird did (I won't even pretend to remember what happened, after the holes already proven to be poked in my memory. Gonna have to re-read that story..)

My point is, a lot of characters have the "beat the league" moments. Hal's had his, J'onn's had his, and Batman does it every other week.. 😛

But at the end of the day, how buff is Weird, really? Can he beat down Superman? Black Adam? Wonder Woman?

Not in a "league tries to contain him" scenario, but all out.

I mean, if we go by Doomsday Wars, Doomsday on average beats Orion, WW, GL, and Flash at the same time, and that's seriously lowballing them as a team, let alone individually..

j never base ang COMPARISON on solely highs or solely lows.
The only way it can work is the take everything in perspective.

Simple fact is superman has higher highs and more of them (I've never seen anything from Jonn that matches Supes carrying a mjni sungulaity across the galaxy or escaping a Black hole.)

Superman also has few lows.

Superman also has more showings in the middle ground.

Take everything into perspective as a whole and MMH simply isn't on Kal-el's level. Its tat simple

Originally posted by cdtm
My friend, thems fighting words. 🙂

Martian Manhunter may not be the second coming, and he may have had his bad showings (You want to make a list of low end showings for Superman?), but he's also had his share of great ones..

John Ostranders run had him doing a man vs team stand off every bit as impressive as the one its claimed weird did (I won't even pretend to remember what happened, after the holes already proven to be poked in my memory. Gonna have to re-read that story..)

My point is, a lot of characters have the "beat the league" moments. Hal's had his, J'onn's had his, and Batman does it every other week.. 😛

But at the end of the day, how buff is Weird, really? Can he beat down Superman? Black Adam? Wonder Woman?

Not in a "league tries to contain him" scenario, but all out.

I mean, if we go by Doomsday Wars, Doomsday on average beats Orion, WW, GL, and Flash at the same time, and that's seriously lowballing them as a team, let alone individually..

All J'onn really did was not get KOed and momentarily restrain people via shape-shifting before flying off intangible. And Malefic was attacking(to cause it all) invisibly. In fact Malefic did most of the work.