Black Lives Matter thread

Started by krisblaze159 pages

Originally posted by Surtur
They will say that happens because white people outnumber black people so much. Now if you tell them blacks commit 50% of murders despite being only like 13% of the total population and they will just blame poverty or white racism or..well, anyone or anything(but themselves, of course)

There is this built in thing here where essentially you can blame all your shortcomings not on yourself but on a racist society.

Good ol' fashioned circular logic.

I've always agreed to some "instutional racism", but I don't see how it's supposed to justify people flipping their shit and rioting all the time.

Plus remember affirmative action is literal government sanctioned racism and that is okay and do you know why it is okay? Because racism was a thing in the past and it was a lot worse than it is now. Just like how it was recently upheld that in certain situations race can be a factor when it comes to college acceptance. On the top of the fact the bar is set lower for blacks and hispanics than it is for whites and asians(because f*ck asians I guess they aren't minority enough or they didn't suffer enough).

So you heard that right, it's not okay to be racist unless you're using that racism to fight other racism.

Look at the love this terrorist organization has develop. WE might destroy ourselves, before ISIS comes over and do it.

Lol they won't ever stop killing each other.

Originally posted by Surtur
True or false at least one of these people would be alive had they not resisted arrest.

Impossible to say either way and a intellectually dishonest question. Black people have been killed by police while not resisting, as well. Not that resisting arrest is punishable by an automatic death sentence. There were 2 cops on top of him and his hands were pinned. The gun was inside his pocket and you mean to tell me they HAD to shoot him 6 times?

What I can say is that we've seen police handle white suspects, who were a clear physical threat and/or actually holding weapons, without lethal force on a few occasions. Not so much with black people, though. Why is that, do you think?

Speaking of, what was he being arrested for in the first place?

They will say that happens because white people outnumber black people so much. Now if you tell them blacks commit 50% of murders despite being only like 13% of the total population and they will just blame poverty or white racism or..well, anyone or anything(but themselves, of course)

The problem with that stat is that we're not talking about deaths that occur when cops are trying to stop a violent crime. We're talking about killing a suspect selling CD's, cigarettes, sitting in the back of a cop car, in a jail cell, holding a toy/pellet gun, etc. And, as stated earlier, Cops manage to take down other, more violent offenders, without killing them. But they're white, so...

There is this built in thing here where essentially you can blame all your shortcomings not on yourself but on a racist society.

Some black people do this, yes. Just as some white people blame the government for all their woes. The difference is that the government doesn't have a long track record of being against the white race. It does with African-Americans. I fully believe in accountability however, I also know some BS when I see it. I know how people are. I've experienced everything from casual racism/ignorance to blatant.

You talk as though you honestly think racism is dead and a thing of the past. Dude, there are still segregated proms in parts of Georgia. Just recently, a black man was found hanging from a tree at Piedmont Park. Police deemed it a suicide. Ok, except the day before, the KKK were at the same park handing out flyers. The Mayor has the FBI involved now, apparently. Look at how they treat the victims like Alton Sterling. The first thing folks bring up is his criminal record, which was back in 2008-09. As if he was some violent thug, who went around causing problems.

They believe cops are racist so I wonder what kind of treatment they think they'll receive from supposedly racist cops who also know you're a cop killer. I'd be shocked if these snipers are brought in alive.

A lot of cops ARE racist. Hell, other cops are now speaking out about it. Now, that doesn't mean ALL are but let's at least acknowledge there is a damn problem and try to fix it.

@Vason,

I think the last one makes sense. If they're so angry at white folks why are they killing eachother? Go kill some jew banker or donald trump or whatever. Stop killing your neighbours if black lives matter so much lmao.

Rampant racism on KMC? Geez what a surprise.

Originally posted by krisblaze
How do BLM people reconcile with the fact that more white people are killed by the police btw?

It's very simple. While more white people are killed by the police, that's because white people are a much larger percentage of the population. When you consider percentage of people killed by cops vs percentage of the entire population, black people are killed at more than twice the rate.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's very simple. While more white people are killed by the police, that's because white people are a much larger percentage of the population. When you consider percentage of people killed by cops vs percentage of the entire population, black people are killed at more than twice the rate.

Yes and they also make up less than 15% of the population and yet are responsible for 50% of the homicides. Do you think that has anything to do with why they are killed at higher rates?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's very simple. While more white people are killed by the police, that's because white people are a much larger percentage of the population. When you consider percentage of people killed by cops vs percentage of the entire population, black people are killed at more than twice the rate.

Can you show me a chart? I'm a visual person.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's very simple. While more white people are killed by the police, that's because white people are a much larger percentage of the population. When you consider percentage of people killed by cops vs percentage of the entire population, black people are killed at more than twice the rate.

White people have a greater chance of being killed while committing a crime.

It's true that more blacks are killed by police compared to their total population, but not compared to the total criminal population.

Don't believe the lies your wife's son tells you.

I just don't get the shock over the kill ratio given the crime ratio.

I agree with the what I believe to be the underlying argument behind Omega's posts though.

Crime in the black community being connected to poverty.

That only partially explains it though, and the myth of institutional racism doesn't explain why they keep killing eachother.

Originally posted by Surtur
I just don't get the shock over the kill ratio given the crime ratio.

I explained that but apparently you skipped my post. So, again, the main complaints are about killing black people in situations that aren't violently criminal. Situations we see white people survive for doing worse. That's where the "shock" comes in.

You're basically saying that because some black people commit violence then we all should expect to be shot and don't deserve the same treatment as white people get.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
I explained that but apparently you skipped my post. So, again, the main complaints are about killing black people in situations that aren't violently criminal. Situations we see white people survive for doing worse. That's where the "shock" comes in.

You're basically saying that because some black people commit violence then we all should expect to be shot and don't deserve the same treatment as white people get.

In the statistics run by Washington Post the amount of people killed while "not aggressive" was only slighter higher for black people.

From what I could tell the Hispanics were the ones that were overrepresented in the "killed while not resisting" category.

Originally posted by krisblaze
In the statistics run by Washington Post the amount of people killed while "not aggressive" was only slighter higher for black people.

From what I could tell the Hispanics were the ones that were overrepresented in the "killed while not resisting" category.

I'm not talking about "amount of people." Look at percentage and the picture changes. Also, "resisting arrest" is used as an excuse. As stated, white people have directly threatened cops and more then get brought in alive.

At this point, I really think some are arguing just to argue.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
I explained that but apparently you skipped my post. So, again, the main complaints are about killing black people in situations that aren't violently criminal. Situations we see white people survive for doing worse. That's where the "shock" comes in.

You're basically saying that because some black people commit violence then we all should expect to be shot and don't deserve the same treatment as white people get.

Okay I get what you are saying but the problem is with this entire notion of violence breeds violence. The cops who got shot in Dallas weren't violent criminals either and yet the reaction for some was..like I said, violence breeds violence.

What I am saying is do you legitimately believe this is all due to racism? That they just go out looking for a black guy to kill? Do you honestly not feel there isn't any correlation between these two things? Since for some it just seems like the cop wakes up in the morning thinking "how many black people can I kill today?" when no that isn't really it. I heard one guy spewing rhetoric about how the cops actually hunt black people down. Like this was that friggin movie with Ice T where they take him to the woods and decide to hunt him.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
I'm not talking about "amount of people." Look at percentage and the picture changes. Also, "resisting arrest" is used as an excuse. As stated, white people have directly threatened cops and more then get brought in alive.

At this point, I really think some are arguing just to argue.


The percentage was only greatly against the hispanic population.

You'd think that the kind of mad racism BLM is protesting would amount to more than a 5-10% difference on these charts.

More black people kill white people than vice versa.

Christ:

YouTube video

She used her BABY to beat her baby daddy. Then called the cops and lied and said he was the one instigating it and then a bunch of witnesses contradicted her to show it was really her who was doing the shit.

She had the baby at 17 and is now only 18. This is what happens when you allow children to raise other children.

It's funny they complain about the cops and yet are so quick to call the cops over stupid bullshit to try to get a man in trouble. Thank god there were witnesses because otherwise the cops would of just believed this horrid woman. They were at the beach so she was beating a dude using her baby as a weapon in public and then had zero problem lying to the cops about it.

I'm not black so I have to ask the black members: why do black women love destroying black men so much?

Oh and you know the Anton Sterling guy who was shot? His rap sheet was apparently 46 PAGES long. But let's make him a martyr anyways. Everyone acts like all these people are choir boys.