Yeah exactly, the "ministry of truth" slipped by me at first. By holy shit her punishment isn't just 50 day suspension but it's like..attending all these stupid lectures and writing a "reflection" letter and GIVING A SPEECH in front of everyone about cultural issues and shit.
Okay so now I have another thing to point to when people say political correctness does no harm.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Ghetto mentality? I must've missed that lesson growing up. What does it even mean
Wow, I guess you missed the entire google thing.
Did you miss lessons on elitism, redneck cluture or anything else they don't have classes for as well? It doesn't know race or age or money its just a very base mentality.
Originally posted by Surtur
F*cking hell:
The ***** who runs that program ought to be tarred and feathered in a public forum, then forced to apologize to every child she's psychologically damaged. This kind of bullshit is exactly the reason race relations will never change. I'm tempted to start a change.org position to have that peice of human filth fired, immediately. Hell, she shouldn't ever be allowed to interact with another child for the rest of her natural life.
Originally posted by Surtur
F*cking hell:
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Just remember: SJWs aren't doing any [b]actual harm. [/B]
True, just like ISIS is like a JV team.
Originally posted by brexit
Just remember when a black person kills a lot of black people, no one cares, but when he shoots a policeman, black lives matter.
To be fair when they shoot cops it's usually denounced(though some do celebrate). It's more like blacks kill each other at record numbers, but when a cop does it these lives suddenly matter. This doesn't mean we shouldn't expect our officers to behave in a certain way, all it means is that they are crying over a scraped knee even though they've just been diagnosed with terminal cancer.
Originally posted by Surtur
To be fair when they shoot cops it's usually denounced(though some do celebrate). It's more like blacks kill each other at record numbers, but when a cop does it these lives suddenly matter. This doesn't mean we shouldn't expect our officers to behave in a certain way, all it means is that they are crying over a scraped knee even though they've just been diagnosed with terminal cancer.
No, it means they expect better from the police than they do from criminals.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No, it means they expect better from the police than they do from criminals.
It can mean multiple things actually. Yes, they do expect more. No, the cops are nowhere near their biggest issue. Which is what a lot of blacks act like is the case. Which is why they constantly use the "we expect more from cops than criminals" excuse.
It's all about how you frame the issue. They could of called their group something along the lines of keeping cops honest, something about that specifically. When you name it "black lives matter" and you ignore the biggest taker of black lives it just looks like you want to ignore the larger concerns of the community. The name Black Lives Matter once again separates the black race from everyone else.
Also what do you think of the student suspended for saying all lives matter?
Originally posted by Surtur
No, the cops are nowhere near their biggest issue. Which is what a lot of blacks act like is the case. Which is why they constantly use the "we expect more from cops than criminals" excuse.
No one is claiming that police violence is the single biggest issue facing the black community; that is a strawman. It is however, an issue, and one that should not even exist; which is the entirety of the problem. People should expect better from police than criminals in every instance; that is not an excuse.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's all about how you frame the issue. They could of called their group something along the lines of keeping cops honest, something about that specifically. When you name it "black lives matter" and you ignore the biggest taker of black lives it just looks like you want to ignore the larger concerns of the community. The name Black Lives Matter once again separates the black race from everyone else.
I think "Black Lives Matter Too" or "Our Lives Matter" would have been more thoughtful names, but when you focus on the name of the group instead of its stated purpose, it makes you look like an apologist for police violence against black people.
Originally posted by Surtur
Also what do you think of the student suspended for saying all lives matter?
Freedom of Speech is not freedom from consequences.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No one is claiming that police violence is the single biggest issue facing the black community; that is a strawman. It is however, an issue, and one that should not even exist; which is the entirety of the problem. People should expect better from police than criminals in every instance; that is not an excuse.I think "Black Lives Matter Too" or "Our Lives Matter" would have been more thoughtful names, but when you focus on the name of the group instead of its stated purpose, it makes you look like an apologist for police violence against black people.
Freedom of Speech is not freedom from consequences.
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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I think "Black Lives Matter Too" or "Our Lives Matter" would have been more thoughtful names, but when you focus on the name of the group instead of its stated purpose, it makes you look like an apologist for police violence against black people.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Freedom of Speech is not freedom from consequences.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No one is claiming that police violence is the single biggest issue facing the black community; that is a strawman. It is however, an issue, and one that should not even exist; which is the entirety of the problem. People should expect better from police than criminals in every instance; that is not an excuse.
Nobody in this forum is claiming it, but there are some blacks out there that do act like it's the biggest problem facing them. One of the leading figures of the BLM movement said that "black on black crime is a myth". So no, there is indeed a problem with this mentality some people have. Especially when key figures in BLM say shit like that.
I think "Black Lives Matter Too" or "Our Lives Matter" would have been more thoughtful names, but when you focus on the name of the group instead of its stated purpose, it makes you look like an apologist for police violence against black people.
It's not just the name, but the name doesn't help. If this is about police brutality then make it about that. Blacks might die more often at the hands of cops, but they do commit more crimes then other races, too, but they aren't the only ones who have suffered at the hands of cops. We need to fight them together and not focus on a specific race.
Freedom of Speech is not freedom from consequences.
Okay this seems like a dodge. I'm not saying there can't be consequences for what you say, but in this particular instance all that was said was "all lives matter" and she got a 50 day suspension and they want to make her get up in front of everyone and give a damn speech about what she has learned.
So is that all you can say? That freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences?
Originally posted by Adam_PoEOh, I see. I simply disagree with the messege presented there. It does not represent the issue being discussed, actually.
Moreover, you did not really address my second question.
Originally posted by Stigma
Saying "all lives matter" should be considered an act worthy of suspenion? Should there be consequences for saying this?