Originally posted by SurturThe toy companies are to blame here, yeah.
The only answer I can see is red tape. Though it needs to be noted that for 99% of those toy gun instances..the guns looked very realistic. Look at this most recent case where the 13 yr. old had pulled what looked like a handgun on a cop and it was actually just a BB gun that looked an awful lot like a handgun. Now the kid is dead.Personally I feel it's time toy companies STOPPED making realistic looking weapons. They are toys, realism isn't f*cking important. I realize some go out of their way to put markers on these that are meant to show they are fake, but these can easily be removed.
Originally posted by Surtur
I heard on the radio this guy was saying there was a recent report showing that violent crimes have been on the rise in this country.
Crime is good for liberalism.
Its like this:
Crime Wave from bad domestic policy and intercity policy
Legislation at Presidential and Congressional Level
Cops have to enforce it.
People dont like the new laws, rebel against the police.
Scapegaot is the police.
Rinse and repeat.
Originally posted by SurturI'm sure, but I can't help but notice when reading these threads the profound lack of focus on the actual problem i.e. the police officers.
So I never said they were specifically to blame, I said I feel they should stop making realistic looking toy guns.Parenting of course plays a factor too.
Originally posted by Surtur
I mean the guy from Houston is dead because he didn't comply.If you think about the other recent deadly shooting at the mall they say the guy was zombie like when they came upon him, he didn't resist at all. Hence why he got taken in alive.
So we just saw the terrorists don't always get taken in alive.
The Nazi? He had a gun and had wounded at least nine people before he was killed by the police. Not sure that is comparable to this shooting where the police have yet to show the man had a gun; let alone was acting in a threatening manner. Which should be the focus here.
Originally posted by Robtard
The Nazi? He had a gun and had wounded at least nine people before he was killed by the police. Not sure that is comparable to this shooting where the police have yet to show the man had a gun; let alone was acting in a threatening manner. Which should be the focus here.
But he didn't specify any specific black incident. Just made some comment about how it's easier to take in terrorists than black people.
Well yes it is easier..when the terrorists comply.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm sure, but I can't help but notice when reading these threads the profound lack of focus on the actual problem i.e. the police officers.
I can't help but notice you failed to notice context. In the case of a young teen pulling a realistic looking weapon on a cop and getting shot over it? The problem isn't the police officer.
Originally posted by Robtard
iirc, the Manhattan bomber wasn't complying and he was armed.
Dude got shot though as I recall, just happened to get lucky and not get shot in a vital area.
Plus nobody said every single terrorist with a gun has been brought in dead.
You talk about wanting to focus on the issue, but then I think you'd agree shit like "Well they can take a terrorist in but not a black man" is counter productive to that. This stuff is usually situational.
Plus I mean hell, do you think Tulsa had to do with racism?
Maybe the officer in question wasn't a racist, sure, but systematic racism likely played some part, even if minor.
The amount of police training and the type keeps being brought up, maybe that is legit and should be looked into. Forgot where I read it, but the amount of training-hours it takes to be a police officer is significantly lower than other professions, like being a hairstylist. Where one is armed with a gun and authorized to interpret and enforce the law; the other is armed with a hairdryer and cuts your hair. Maybe that is a problem.
Originally posted by SurturI admit that in terms of that particular incident the circumstances were pretty extenuating, but it's not isolated as you know, there are several similar cases in which yes, the officer was definitely the problem.
I can't help but notice you failed to notice context. In the case of a young teen pulling a realistic looking weapon on a cop and getting shot over it? The problem isn't the police officer.