So damn, before it seemed like the family of the Charlotte guy was saying he was just a good guy and all that and then I see this:
Charlotte shooting victim's wife said he threatened family
He's been convicted of deadly assault with a weapon. Last year his wife wanted a temporary restraining order because he had supposedly threatened to kill the family with a gun.
Let's just say for the sake of argument that the guy was a criminal and a scumbag as fact, how is that relevant to him apparently being shot while unarmed and not threatening in the now? Serious question.
Someone brought this up and I feel it's valid, when a black man is killed and it's questionable if he should have been, the focus goes to how shitty of a man he was in the past. When a white man say rapes someone, the focus goes to how great of a person he normally is and what epic potential he's showed and how we shouldn't judge him on a mistake etc. ad vomitus.
It's relevant when he has violent criminal charges involving a gun and threatened to murder his wife and child with a gun. They portrayed him as just some innocent man reading a book waiting for his kid.
So you see this shit happens more with blacks because they are all turned into martyrs and saints for no other reason than..they are black.
So yep, it's relevant when they try to play a certain narrative about this guy that doesn't fit with his behavior patterns.
It becomes less and less difficult to believe he would point a gun at someone.
As for your rape example I have ONLY really seen that BS mentality when the person has otherwise never ever done anything wrong when it comes to crime..besides that one rape. Do you really believe if Brock Turner had a violent past history..people wouldn't bring that shit up? I also didn't notice you having any issues when the cops past was brought up. Perhaps you missed that.
Also are you aware that the past of the cops tends to get brought up with the media as well, right? Especially if their past includes prior violent encounters with criminals.
Damn they indoctrinate these kids at a young age:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/i-m-not-shy-charlotte-girl-gives-emotional-speech-race-n655776
Ah yeah, so: f*ck the UN. Blacks weren't the only ones who experienced racial tension in this country. What about the other minorities?
Let us say we wanted to pay: where do we get the money? You can't say taxes, because then what you just..take taxes from the white people? But not all whites are racist, so why should a non-racist be paying for what racists did?
If you're half black and half white, are you paying yourself reparations?
Should the British pay up for all their centuries of crimes against humanity?
http://listverse.com/2014/02/04/10-evil-crimes-of-the-british-empire/
Originally posted by Surtur
It's relevant when he has violent criminal charges involving a gun and threatened to murder his wife and child with a gun. They portrayed him as just some innocent man reading a book waiting for his kid.So you see this shit happens more with blacks because they are all turned into martyrs and saints for no other reason than..they are black.
So yep, it's relevant when they try to play a certain narrative about this guy that doesn't fit with his behavior patterns.
It becomes less and less difficult to believe he would point a gun at someone.
As for your rape example I have ONLY really seen that BS mentality when the person has otherwise never ever done anything wrong when it comes to crime..besides that one rape. Do you really believe if Brock Turner had a violent past history..people wouldn't bring that shit up? I also didn't notice you having any issues when the cops past was brought up. Perhaps you missed that.
Also are you aware that the past of the cops tends to get brought up with the media as well, right? Especially if their past includes prior violent encounters with criminals.
In my scenario we are assuming this guy is a scumbag as fact, yet even scumbags don't deserve to be killed when they're unarmed and apparently nonthreatening, as the police have yet to show the gun, unless something recent has come out?
Considering the cop(s) are doing the shooting, any previous similar behavior is important.
Originally posted by Surtur
Also wait what about the Africans who sold blacks into slavery, do they pay?Oh and what about those blacks descended from the blacks who owned slaves? Do they pay these reparations?
Everyone should pay everyone I guess.
Should Japan pay up for Pearl Harbor?
Should Germany pay up to Israel?
Should Italy pay up to the EU?
Originally posted by Robtard
In my scenario we are assuming this guy is a scumbag as fact,
So serious question: why is this just a fact in your scenario? Look I get the guy is dead, but he threatened to murder his family. How is he not a scumbag? I just don't get it. People do not suddenly become great human beings because they die.
He apparently had a criminal record that went across 3 states and had threatened to murder his family. Yeah, dude was slime.
Just because he is slime doesn't mean he deserved to die.
yet even scumbags don't deserve to be killed when they're unarmed and apparently nonthreatening, as the police have yet to show the gun, unless something recent has come out?Considering the cop(s) are doing the shooting, any previous similar behavior is important.
Nobody said he deserved to be killed because of it. What I am talking about is the narrative of the situation. Which you have to admit was more or less: he was just a kind innocent man reading a book waiting for his kid.
I want the truth about people, not the little fairy tale the media chooses to present.
I don't know all the context and the guy is said to have had brain damage, so I worded it like that for the sake of argument. Seems you're agreeing that even a scumbag doesn't deserve to be killed when he's unarmed and nonthreatening. So I'm confused with your argument.
And for all we know at that point in time he was. People can change; even if he didn't, see above.
Imo, you should be more concerned with the truth of the situation that lead to his death and the police's apparent inability to show the gun he had, than if this guy got bad grades in school, shoplifted as a kid, mugged as teen etc.
I mean look I know the family is grieving so I never would expect them to just be shouting from the rooftops that this guy was violent and threatened to murder them with a gun, etc. I do not expect that, but I would just expect people to keep quiet then.
If you don't think the truth will portray the victim in the best light then just don't say much at all. Keep it simple: let people know you love and miss this person and you want an investigation done to get to the bottom of what happened. There is nothing wrong with saying that and by doing so you haven't created any type of false narrative for any nutjobs out there to latch onto.
I especially think this is important because I think the rhetoric spewed from both sides of this can cause people to react in unpredictable ways.
Sigh, and here we f*cking go again:
Black guy in San Diego shot dead. Article says he pulled something from his pocket the cops thought was a gun. From the article:
"A black man reportedly acting erratically at a strip mall in suburban San Diego was shot and killed by police after pulling an object from his pocket, pointing it at officers and assuming a "shooting stance," authorities said."
and then this part:
"Meantime, other videos quickly surfaced showing the aftermath. In one posted to Facebook, an unidentified woman is heard telling police at the scene that the man was ordered to take his hand out of his pocket.
"I said: 'Take your hand out your pocket, baby, or they're going to shoot you.' He said 'no, no, no,' " the woman said. "When he lifted his hand out ... he did have something in his hand but it wasn't no gun, and that's when they shot him."
Sounds like the guy had a mental illness. Another guy claims he had his hands in the air, while this other woman seemed to be saying he wouldn't take his hands out of his pockets and did in fact pull an object out, but it wasn't a gun.
We know very little at the moment, but from reading the article it just seems like this wasn't racially motivated. Seems once again it comes down to training, I don't think they are trained to deal with mentally ill people.