Originally posted by Genii96It always amuses me when people premise a response with "you do realize..." before they have their facts straight...
You do realize pushing a planet with ur muscle strength isn't the same s you and a GL using a massive machine wrapped round and flying to push it right? And exactly how far did they actually pull it?
Anyway, Hal's apparatus was required because the earth had to be pulled AGAINST the energies Starbreaker was exerting to hurl it into the sun(at near-c.) IOW, that feat required substantially more strength than would be required to simply push a stagnant world back into orbit or whathaveyou.
If you'd like to pretend that it required minimal strength to preform said feat, then that's your prerogative I suppose. I obviously disagree.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As per Superman's words, PERHAPS there was such a machine.I was asking if such a machine then existed.
Poor Saint? Not sure why. You seem to be in a very antagonistic mood...as per always.
Dude, you can't hide you fanboyism. I'm in a great mood, don't try that. What the hell do you mean perhaps there was such a machine? Are you able to read scans or not? Yes, he said perhaps, he also said a lot more in context, which a) he doesn't have the strength to move the planet and b) he surmises their may be a machine on the planet that would neutralize the mass of the planet which would allow him to move it. Then he moves it. You need Byrne to spoon feed you?
Originally posted by Galan007
It always amuses me when people premise a response with "you do realize..." before they have their facts straight...Anyway, Hal's apparatus was required because the earth had to be pulled AGAINST the energies Starbreaker was exerting to hurl it into the sun. IOW, that feat required substantially more strength than simply pushing a stagnant world back into orbit or whathaveyou.
If you'd like to pretend that it required no strength to preform said feat, then that's your prerogative I suppose. I obviously disagree.
You do realize that they are all flying, right? It's amusing people want to differentiate between physical strength and TP control, but not physical strength and graviton control.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Dude, you can't hide you fanboyism. I'm in a great mood, don't try that. What the hell do you mean perhaps there was such a machine? Are you able to read scans or not? Yes, he said perhaps, he also said a lot more in context, which a) he doesn't have the strength to move the planet and b) he surmises their may be a machine on the planet that would neutralize the mass of the planet which would allow him to move it. Then he moves it. You need Byrne to spoon feed you?
OK!
Originally posted by Blue Area VetYou do realize that he's still moving the earth, right(which is the question that was posed)..? And he's doing so AGAINST the opposing forces of Starbreaker, to boot(which can hurl a planet at near-c speeds.)
You do realize that they are all flying, right? It's amusing people want to differentiate between physical strength and TP control, but not physical strength and graviton control.
I understand that you're of the anti-abhi/Superman faction, but the feat is very impressive regardless of the attempts to lowball it.
Originally posted by Galan007
You do realize that he's still moving the earth, right(which is the question that was posed)..? And he's doing so AGAINST the opposing forces of Starbreaker, to boot.I understand that you're of the anti-abhi/Superman faction, but the feat is very impressive regardless of the attempts to lowball it.
You realize you didn't actually address what I said, right?
Originally posted by Blue Area VetWhat you said had absolutely nothing to do with anything I brought up here.
You realize you didn't actually address what I said, right?
I posed scans which demonstrate Superman's ability to move earth-weight against the opposing forces of Starbreaker. You can argue the push/pull thing all you'd like--that side of things has nothing to do with the question posed in the OP, which was simply: "who can move a planet back into orbit?" Superman can, and has, done so.
You're just going out of your way to lowball, it seems.