Originally posted by carver9
This man is a genious. Let me know when you want me to PM you (lol) my OWAW collection. Especially the words and training of Mongul.
Is that your only argument? Ive read the entire Imperiex saga at least 4 times. I know about the entire scene.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13675573#post13675573
Since 2012, no doubt you have meditated even further upon the storyline.
Originally posted by carver9
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You've been educated on this on around fifty times.
Yet, here we are.
Originally posted by carver9
Which would be inaccurate since Superman himself said he doesn't need to pull his punches against Adam (and still failed to move him out of the city block). Those same mental blocks that people tend to bring up, Mongul trained him during OWAW how to get past that.
Nice to see you completely missed the point of OWAW and his training.
Am I the only one who wishes OWAW would somehow attain some kind of physical manifestation so I could punch it in its god damn face? It was just chalk full of terrible.
But anyways, people always use that to justify stuff. Yep I do think a lot of times he does hold back, but he has no reason to hold back in a grappling contest against Black Adam. He wouldn't have to murder the guy or destroy the city in order to overpower someone.
Originally posted by Surtur
Am I the only one who wishes OWAW would somehow attain some kind of physical manifestation so I could punch it in its god damn face? It was just chalk full of terrible.But anyways, people always use that to justify stuff. Yep I do think a lot of times he does hold back, but he has no reason to hold back in a grappling contest against Black Adam. He wouldn't have to murder the guy or destroy the city in order to overpower someone.
Exactly. He then tells us he is most ticked off and have no qualms at holding back. He then gets over powered twice and Adam literally tanks everything he throws at him. Picking and choosing is amazing. Its like me discrediting all of Hulk loses because he admitted during HOM that he always held back due to Banner mental blocks. Its dumb.
Originally posted by carver9
Exactly. He then tells us he is most ticked off and have no qualms at holding back. He then gets over powered twice and Adam literally tanks everything he throws at him. Picking and choosing is amazing. Its like me discrediting all of Hulk loses because he admitted during HOM that he always held back due to Banner mental blocks. Its dumb.
When he actually stopped holding back against him at the end of the fight, Adam forfeited the fight.
This has been explained several times to you.
Speaking of statements, here is one.
He is not even stronger than Power Girl who was the strongest being there as per J'onn.
Must be true too.
So okay we could just go by pure feats. OWAW doesn't actually negate 20+ years worth of feats though.
Like Superman couldn't even beat Captain Marvel at arm wrestling until Cap jr. activated his power thus sapping some of Caps. Let me guess, Superman was holding back? Afraid he was going to rip off Caps arms?
To you has Superman ever actually been truly defeated? Or were all his defeats just due to mental blocks?
EDIT: Also wait isn't that scan from the WW3 storyline?
Originally posted by Surtur
So okay we could just go by pure feats. OWAW doesn't actually negate 20+ years worth of feats though.Like Superman couldn't even beat Captain Marvel at arm wrestling until Cap jr. activated his power thus sapping some of Caps. Let me guess, Superman was holding back? Afraid he was going to rip off Caps arms?
To you has Superman ever actually been truly defeated? Or were all his defeats just due to mental blocks?
EDIT: Also wait isn't that scan from the WW3 storyline?
But I direct you to the fight in Action Comics annual 4 where Eclipsed Superman beat the ****ing shit out of Captain Marvel and actually hospitalized him.
While holding back.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
He said he doesn't needs to hold back as much as he does against humans.When he actually stopped holding back against him at the end of the fight, Adam forfeited the fight.
This has been explained several times to you.
Speaking of statements, here is one.
He is not even stronger than Power Girl who was the strongest being there as per J'onn.
Must be true too.
He did not forfeit the fight because he thought he would lose you nut. He forfeited the fight because the fight was pointless. Why would he forfeit a fight he wasn't losing? Superman couldn't even move him out of the city block. Adam over powered him twice and stalemated him in a contest of strength. You're trolling. Show me something in that fight that proves Supeman put a piece of fear into Adam.
Black Adam was powered up in WW3, 7 gods not 6 🙂
Nothing Superman couldn't do anyways.
What do you think would happen if Firestorm and Dr.Light flew at Superman (or anybody around his physical capabilities)? Same with Gardner and Alan Scott. They're literally trying to [b]wrestle/[b] Black Adam.
52 and WW3 were great comics, but let's not pretend like the total sum of the team Adam fought was -anywhere- near the sum of its parts.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Black Adam was powered up in WW3, 7 gods not 6 🙂Nothing Superman couldn't do anyways.
What do you think would happen if Firestorm and Dr.Light flew at Superman (or anybody around his physical capabilities)? Same with Gardner and Alan Scott. They're literally trying to [b]wrestle/[b] Black Adam.
52 and WW3 were great comics, but let's not pretend like the total sum of the team Adam fought was -anywhere- near the sum of its parts.
You might as well break every team fight up like this. I can't think of a single team solo showing where the team used every ability they had during a fight. Then this wasn't the only thing that happened in Adam fight vs the jsa.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Abhi's point is that, 7 gods or no, Adam still wasn't the strongest on the field.A field which was comprised of people below Superman, in terms of strength.
However, its not his strength that makes BA dangerous, but his willingness to kill.
Who was the strongest and please advise what showing proves this.
A team that was dog piling him and as shown, damaging him as well.
Never said that strength is his key factor but he is a peer.
