Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That the theory that Maxima did better than everyone else was because she took a hands on approach, and that that somehow gave her +5 damage on every roll, is a bad theory.
But she kind of did. At least up to the point when Superman begins noticing that DD's strength may have been increasing. Which then turns into the rag-dolling of Maxi, and Superman. If you recall the scene which I'm talking about? At the time that Maxi was fighting DD, he may have been and likely was weaker than he was by the end of DOS (in terms of physical strength that is).
Maxima fist>>>>>all of the hero's combined include Superman who pored heat vision into Doomsday if we take the approach Rao is trying to dish out. Superman budging Doomsday with a dose of heat vision (that did no damage) doesn't take away from this either. Especially given the fact that they fought throughout an entire comic before that happened.
Originally posted by carver9
Maxima fist>>>>>all of the hero's combined include Superman who pored heat vision into Doomsday if we take the approach Rao is trying to dish out. Superman budging Doomsday with a dose of heat vision (that did no damage) doesn't take away from this either. Especially given the fact that they fought throughout an entire comic before that happened.
Maxima was regarded as second strongest. Superman was holding back which is exactly the whole point of the discussion dum dum.
Then superman matched and surpased maxima
You are really a ****ing idiot and a waste of my time. I am glad you are on ignore
Originally posted by carver9
Is this the scene you're talking about? Yes or no.Now what's the difference between that scene and this scene?
http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/galanpics/media/dos_max1.jpg.html
http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/galanpics/media/dos_max2.jpg.htmlIf Superman would've approached Doomsday during the end using nothing but heat vision like he did against Doomsday in the scans above, Superman would've died. He took a different approach and physically killed DD. Also, Doomsday wasn't handicapped there...both of his arms were out.
Originally posted by carver9
Maxima fist>>>>>all of the hero's combined include Superman who pored heat vision into Doomsday if we take the approach Rao is trying to dish out. Superman budging Doomsday with a dose of heat vision (that did no damage) doesn't take away from this either. Especially given the fact that they fought throughout an entire comic before that happened.
You can't be this inane.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Maxima was regarded as second strongest. Superman was holding back which is exactly the whole point of the discussion dum dum.Then superman matched and surpased maxima
You are really a ****ing idiot and a waste of my time. I am glad you are on ignore
So he withstood an attack from a holding back Superman, injured Guy, Booster Gold (really), Martian Manhunter (how powerful is his Martian Vision during that era. Please provide scans), and Fire (really).
So the only beings we really need to mention is Booster Gold (again, really), Martian Manhunter (scans of how powerful his Martian Vision were during that era), and Fire.
Stop taking this so serious. I have not called you out of your name yet. It's going to be ok, these people are not real.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Maxima used suckershots to budge Doomsday.You can't be this inane.
When and also, Fire suckered shot Doomsday here and it does nothing.
http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/galanpics/media/dos_bloodwynd1.jpg.html
Trying to figure out where you are going with this.
Originally posted by carver9
When and also, Fire suckered shot Doomsday here and it does nothing.http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/galanpics/media/dos_bloodwynd1.jpg.html
Trying to figure out where you are going with this.
Are you comparing Fire to Maxima now?
Originally posted by abhilegend
😐Are you comparing Fire to Maxima now?
Maxima moving Doomsday did have something to do with power, huh? So why even bring up surprise attack when it was much more than that? Doesn't matter. A mod came in here and told us to get off of this topic. Don't be a hard headed little man ABHI.
Originally posted by carver9
So he withstood an attack from a holding back Superman, injured Guy, Booster Gold (really), Martian Manhunter (how powerful is his Martian Vision during that era. Please provide scans), and Fire (really).So the only beings we really need to mention is Booster Gold (again, really), Martian Manhunter (scans of how powerful his Martian Vision were during that era), and Fire.
Stop taking this so serious. I have not called you out of your name yet. It's going to be ok, these people are not real.
You are a waste of time but I am willing to shut you up for good, how about we BZ this and loser leaves for 6 months
I said Superman holds back a lot and show my evidence and you bring whatever that little brain of yours allows you to do.
Originally posted by carver9
The difference in orders of magnitude is simply crazy, and to think he was able to show that much control under a combat situation where he had just been blasted by a sh*tton of various energies.
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
A non holding back superman is (From Strongest to Weakest)Superman 100%
Mon El 75%
Captain Marvel 60%-65%
Martian Manhunter 55%
Wonder Woman 50%
Power Girl 45-50%This is being realistic based on feats from comics
Getting back to the op.
You'd have to gauge an all out superman showings against everyone else listed ( mon el diana john etc) going all out. If your question is how do they stack at normal mindsets versus supes with his kids gloves off you're gonna have wildly varying views