Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Do You know the difference between catching and blocking?
Do you?
Please give me the definitions and explain to me how Ozy's was more of a catch than a WS's, and how WS's was more of a block than Ozy's.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
By your logic people wearing bullet proof vest aren't actually using their vest to block bullets but to deflect them with their chest
This has to be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever read. And I've debated Quanchi a lot.
So to you if I block a punch with my arm that's the same thing as standing there taking punches to my chest? Don't be dense.
Ozy never caught the bullet in his fingers. It was laying there in the middle of his glove. So that's essentially blocking with his hand.
WS also blocked multiple shots with his hand before putting the gunman down easily. Compared with Ozy who blocked/caught 1 single shot which resulted in him rolling down the stairs.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yes, the aim blocking has been noted. That was indeed a sign of skill and close quarters combat. What it wasn't, is comparable to Ozy's feat. You can clearly see in the situations, WS had his arm raised prior to the shots. Ozy, in stark contrast, raised his arm after it was fired. His arm was at his side. Not close to the same
So wait, you think Ozy's arm moves faster than a bullet?
If that was the case no one would even see his arms moving. He would look like a speedster.
Originally posted by Darth ThorIt happened, and clearly so. Which is the point. The occurrence you're talking about is common place. We see it all the time in movies. We wouldn't see a bullet fly in the arrow, yet sometimes the director wants us to. People near explosions would have their ear drums ruptured, yet they don't. Superman vs. Zod fight was being perceived by people and we can easily see their punches. However the reality is, if the speed was done to scale, we'd see none of that. Sh1t we wouldn't be able to perceive him flying... yet we can clearly visually see him flying. I could literally go on and on with this common occurrence. Directors like the audience to be to visual see things, and aren't trying to do scene with speed scaling in mind. Like the scene when Abom catches the rocket, visually we should've been able to see nothing really. yet we could clearly see it flying, the spin, the catch. We shouldn't be able to if it was done to speed. Come on Thor, you're not new to movies man.
So wait, you think Ozy's arm moves faster than a bullet?If that was the case no one would even see his arms moving. He would look like a speedster.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, the stuff I'm mentioning have to do with throwing a proper punch. If you utilize 90% of arm muscles (especially fast twitch muscles) to throw the punch as you claim, you'll end up doing rabbit punches. Sure they'll be fast. They'll also be completely useless.So if you want to talk about punching speed, then we need to take into consideration that it's a proper punch and not just some random flick of the arm... in which case you have ZERO evidence of Ozy moving at that kind of speed while throwing a punch.
Give it up KT. WS just hits faster than Ozy. If you disagree then all you need to do is link a video showing Ozy striking faster than WS. Until you do, all you have are useless words.
No, we're talking about arm speed here. THAT WAS MY SPECIFIC statement that you conceded (rightfully so), but then tried to back out of the concession and make it about punching speed. Which isn't what I asked. However, I then showed Ozy could unquestionably punch faster as well. You then changed your STANCE AGAIN, and go... well those would be just slaps with no power so who cares. Ummm, duh, you were saying he can punch faster, he can't. Then you concede that those are really punches so it doesn't count. WHAT?? When it comes to speed power means nothing. We were ONLY discussing speed. Now you want to discuss power in punches. That isn't the discussion. The discuss was who has faster arm movement. Period.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It happened, and clearly so. Which is the point. The occurrence you're talking about is common place. We see it all the time in movies. We wouldn't see a bullet fly in the arrow, yet sometimes the director wants us to. People near explosions would have their ear drums ruptured, yet they don't. Superman vs. Zod fight was being perceived by people and we can easily see their punches. However the reality is, if the speed was done to scale, we'd see none of that. Sh1t we wouldn't be able to perceive him flying... yet we can clearly visually see him flying. I could literally go on and on with this common occurrence. Directors like the audience to be to visual see things, and aren't trying to do scene with speed scaling in mind. Like the scene when Abom catches the rocket, visually we should've been able to see nothing really. yet we could clearly see it flying, the spin, the catch. We shouldn't be able to if it was done to speed. Come on Thor, you're not new to movies man.
Bucky caught bullets from larger caliber guns.
You been caught lying.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Who gives a shit? What's he going to do, bullet catch Bucky into submission?
It's weird such basic concepts of a fight need to be explained. What it shows is, Ozy being significantly faster in arm movement than Bucky. He movement there would be similar to blocking a punch, only his arm would have to travel even less of a distance than the bullet catch feat. His arms would already be in a fighting stance. So if we know his reactions are vastly faster than Bucky, and he can move his arm faster than Bucky. We also know he's an expert MA, and very adept at block. So the only logical argument would then have to be, well he may be able to move his arm into position to block his punches, but he can't block that arm. Well... I've proven that wrong as well.
People below Ozy have been able to deal with the arm. BW for one has, IM out of his suit parried a blow from the arm. I showed BP hits sending WS flying. Yet Hawkeye, a human, was able to block blows from BP and stay in the pocket. Sure he would've lost eventually, but he showed that skill can allow you to block punches from somebody out of your physical weight class. Ozy is above them. So if they can block it, he can block it, and easier.
So you tell me, who's going to be landing more punches here?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He also blocked and deflected automatic gun fire, much more impressive then timing a single sub sonic bullet from an old school .38 special.
AIM blocking isn't impressive at all. God damn you're dumb. You thinking having your arm raised PRIOR to taking fire and the bullet hit your arm is an impressive speed showing? WTF. It's aim blocking at its finest. Not impressive. It speaks more to how shitty the aim of the foes are than anything. They were pathetic. You see a guy raise his arm, and you shoot right at the STATIONARY arm? Yeah, incredible skill and speed there... lol
Oh look, here is Ozy preparing for the shot😂
The shot that basically completely missed him.