Arcann vs. DOE Bane (Force battle)

Started by Syndicate5 pages

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Can I get the quote?

If he's stated to be more powerful than at any point prior to that moment, it would invalidate arguments saying he can only replicate those feats while on a nexus.

Sure. Let me ask Emp.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It's also said to be 20 meters tall. Nowhere near as tall as the one seen in TOR. It's not like the tower was made bigger for the Bane Trilogy, the entire concept was changed. And again, it's not like Bane destroyed the Temple. He broke it's supporting structures.

Is it? I'd agree that the novel trumps gameplay cutscenes. Can I get the quote?

"Suddenly they broke through into a clearing, a circle nearly one hundred meters across. In the very center stood the Rakatan Temple. The structure rose nearly twenty meters to the sky, a monument of carved rock and stone"

Also:
"He took a trembling step forward before stopping short. He shook his head to clear it. The dark side was strong here, so strong it made him feel light-headed."
Clearly stating it's a powerful nexus.
" 'I agree, Bane replied, hurling out the wave of Force energy he had been gathering during the Blademaster’s speech."
Clearly stating that Bane had to gather energy from around him.

" The archway collapsed in a shower of stone, burying Kas’im beneath tons
of rock and mortar. A second later the rest of the roof caved in."

Clearly showing Bane only broke the arch way and gravity did the rest.

This has to be the most overrated feat in the history of Star Wars. Lord knows it needs to end already.

^^ 10/10 sexy post, would bang again.

That's all fine but it's not saying that Bane only collapsed the archway and the rest was up to gravity. It simply says the arch way collapsed first. Also the feat itself would be overrated if it was attempted to be applied to PoD Bane but it's not. It's attempted to be applied to DoE Bane who is stated to be more powerful about 2 times removed due to statements.

To the first bit, common sense, get some. Archway fell, then a second later the roof fell. Archways are supporting structures. That is the entire point of an arch. Like literally the only thing it does. As to the second, what?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Sure. Let me ask Emp.

Kthx

Darth Bane's grand showing on Lehon is nothing to sneeze at. However, we shall keep in mind that that Temple was not in its prime state. Moreover, the environment was also ideal for Darth Bane.

For comparison:

Arcann's sister (Vaylin) literally tore a structure of similar size apart and hurled its huge chunks towards another building as if they were nothing. The setting was also neutral.

I believe that Arcann is on par with Vaylin, if not better.

No she didn't, and no he isn't. Vaylin's more powerful than Arcann, Arcann's just a better combatant.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No she didn't, and no he isn't.

Yes, she did:

That structure is (was) huge.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Vaylin's more powerful than Arcann, Arcann's just a better combatant.

Vaylin might have greater potential but Arcann have superior command of the Force at the moment.

Vaylin might surpass her brother at some point but this remains to be seen.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
To the first bit, common sense, get some. Archway fell, then a second later the roof fell. Archways are supporting structures. That is the entire point of an arch. Like literally the only thing it does. As to the second, what?

A buildings support is not only made up of the archway. Unless Bane's TK substantially weakened the structure it shouldn't have totally collapsed just because the archway did.

He's stated to be more powerful then he'd ever been before in RoT and then again in DoE thus he's more powerful then the incarnation that accomplished that feat two times over.

pretty irrelevant to the fact there is no evidence he could replicate that feat

I guess that's where we disagree. I believe straight out statements even if the feats don't exist to back it up.

Originally posted by ILS
Quote?
"Bane reached inward to call upon the dark side, drawing it not only from himself but also from the orbalisks fastened to his chest and back. Feeling an incredible surge of power beyond any he had known before, he released it in a burst of energy. The hallucinations that had plagued his wounded mind ever since the detonation of the thought bomb vanished, instantly and utterly annihilated by his newfound power. He was stronger now than he ever had been, and he knew the visions of the dead Sith would haunt him no more."

And this is before the Orbalisks even fully develop, DoE Bane being even more powerful than Orbalisk Bane at his peak.

So frankly the Lehon feat is a low end showing, lel.

Originally posted by carthage
pretty irrelevant to the fact there is no evidence he could replicate that feat
Lmao, Bane being more powerful than he ever was before, including on Lehon, is evidence he can replicate that feat.

People should just put Bane where he belongs and not on par with either Yoda or Ventress.

Some people are just too salty, so that will never happen.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
*snip*.

Again, LeGenD, she only ripped up the plating. That is not ripping up an entire building. Second, that was never said, ever. No one said Arcann had greater command of the Force than Vaylin, and no evidence actually supports that. Hell, Lana flat out contradicts this when you first meet her.

Originally posted by Syndicate
A buildings support is not only made up of the archway. Unless Bane's TK substantially weakened the structure it shouldn't have totally collapsed just because the archway did.

Uh, yeah it would, because if it lost a major supporting structure, what's left wouldn't be able to hold up the weight of the entire building because it wasn't built to support it.

He's stated to be more powerful then he'd ever been before in RoT and then again in DoE thus he's more powerful then the incarnation that accomplished that feat two times over.

That is not what that means. That's like arguing that Sidious must be thousands of times over more powerful than Bane, which is ridiculous to say the least. 😬

The archway was 20 meters up on the exterior of the temple, it wasn't supporting its entire weight or structure lol

No, it's not. The entire structure was 20 meters, not just one archway.

Hell the idea that the entire temple collapsed instead of that part of the entry way like it's described in the novel is retarded too, but I digress.