Arcann vs. DOE Bane (Force battle)

Not only do I question the validity of the notion that the Outlander wasn't at full strength at that point in time, but even not being at full strength relative to the events directly preceding KOTFE, I doubt he/she'd be inferior to the hero right after Act 3, which is when most of his/her best feats occur.

We can't pretend that Arcann ragdoll The Outlander around before the fight started, either.

If the Outlander didn't need more power to defeat Arcann, Valkorion wouldn't be giving it to them in Chapter XII.

👆 yeah. As for this fight, I feel that Bane has the more destructive offensive force ability, but Arcann's defense is also extremely staunch.

Kas'im defended against the most impressive thing Bane has ever or ever will do. Arcann definitely takes this.

It probably is the most impressive TK feat (non orby) bane ever did or would do, but it's not necessarily the most impressive he is capable of doing. Which is why this is a debate.

We see what a more powerful Bane can do and its not even comparable. Even if they were, none compare to tanking Valkorion, and it's implied that Arcann's unique way of using the Force allows him to constantly grow stronger over any fight with him. Bane doesn't really have a chance in Force only.

Wait, when is that implied? Sounds interesting.

"Jedi approach the Force as a companion, and Sith try to enslave it. Arcann and his kind... negotiate. They bargain with the Force in exchange for its power. The more they offer in sacrifice, the greater their reward--and they'll pay any price. That's what makes them strong."

So you know, basically the tagline for this expansion makes sense now. "A man can have anything if he's willing to sacrifice everything."

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Kas'im defended against the most impressive thing Bane has ever or ever will do. Arcann definitely takes this.

That was only a portion of the wave though. A small part.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
I'm still waiting for dat quote, Syn.

Emp has it. I'll post it when he gets back to me.

I thought someone else already posted it last page.

Ah you're right Emp. Here you go Col.

"Bane reached inward to call upon the dark side, drawing it not only from himself but also from the orbalisks fastened to his chest and back. Feeling an incredible surge of power beyond any he had known before, he released it in a burst of energy. The hallucinations that had plagued his wounded mind ever since the detonation of the thought bomb vanished, instantly and utterly annihilated by his newfound power. He was stronger now than he ever had been, and he knew the visions of the dead Sith would haunt him no more."

Beni said it was his own power, and in that quote it's flat out saying he's drawing on the orbalisks.

Fair enough. Emp do you have the DoE quote?

ayy lmao

Originally posted by Syndicate
Fair enough. Emp do you have the DoE quote?

people don't think the universe be like it is
but it do

that was beautiful JKBart... truly beautiful.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
"Jedi approach the Force as a companion, and Sith try to enslave it. Arcann and his kind... negotiate. They bargain with the Force in exchange for its power. The more they offer in sacrifice, the greater their reward--and they'll pay any price. That's what makes them strong."

So you know, basically the tagline for this expansion makes sense now. "A man can have anything if he's willing to sacrifice everything."

That didn't really help him against GGkorion, did it?

Kek, why would it? Valkorion doesn't use the Force like the Sith or the Jedi either, besides being a metric-shit ton more powerful. Besides, the Outlander's supposed to be getting a boost soon, but even then they have to learn how to use the Force differently to defeat Arcann. Unfortunately, the way the'll be doing it is one of the few things BioWare didn't put in this patch.