Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Given that the team of Maul and Savage isn't really that far below the team of that same Maul, and Dooku; I doubt it would be a hell of a fight, tbh.
What? Savage isn't close to Maul or Dooku's league. There's a hell of a difference between the two teams.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
And later in SoD Dooku basically said he and Maul would get rekt if they went against Palpatine.
That's hardly accurate at all considering that was including Talzin. And we all know that Talzin, Maul and Dooku would rofl stomp Sidious.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
What? Savage isn't close to Maul or Dooku's league. There's a hell of a difference between the two teams.That's hardly accurate at all considering that was including Talzin. And we all know that Talzin, Maul and Dooku would rofl stomp Sidious.
He didn't know Talzin was involved until a few seconds afterward, iirc.
I agree with Stark in the sense that Dooku and Maul would put up a better fight against Sidious than Maul and Savage ever did, but I don't think it'd be enough to defeat him tbh. Had Sidious wanted, he could've ended his fight vs. Maul and Savage with the Force in the first thirty seconds, but he preferred to toy around with lightsabers.
He'd probably see Dooku as more of a threat than Savage and thus would take out Maul fast so he can then solo Dooku. That's the most likely outcome imo.
And Revan is more powerful in the Force than either of them, but he won't defeat them on a saber duel. If they manage to get close, Revan's dead.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
What? Savage isn't close to Maul or Dooku's league. There's a hell of a difference between the two teams.
LAWL. The difference between Savage and Dooku isn't a big difference at all when all the bias is tossed aside and their feats are objectively juxtaposed. There are also two things you seem to be ignoring:
1) Dooku has a noted weakness to duelist who can deliver monstrous kenetic force behind their blows, do to his Lightsaber form and frankly---Sidious strength makes anyone who has ever taxed Dooku in that department feeble in comparison. This means, Palatine had a form advantag over Tyranus he didn't have the luxury to sport vs Opress.
2) Maul and Dooku teamwork is nowhere near as fluent as Savage and Maul 's own, which plays a major role in a 2-1 battle.
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So yeah, Dooku and Maul will go down in the same fashion as Maul with Opress from where I'm standing.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Well, he has a serious disadvantage in that he can't block lightning efficiently. I'd say Dooku's TK is considerably better, and his dueling skills far outclass Savage's.
This is true in Season 3, but he was trained by Maul afterward. There are half-animated scenes where be blocked Sidious' lightning in the Lawless, so it's presumable that he doesn't still have that glaring weakness.
Aside from choking/blasting around pretty much everyone? Shattering Mandalorian Iron, and blasting armies around like wet cloth is pretty cool. Besides, where are you even going with "significantly above"? Dooku couldn't exert a telekinetic edge over Season 3 Savage, so I'm wondering, do you really think he could do so to Season 5 Savage?
Originally posted by ILS
Aside from choking/blasting around pretty much everyone? Shattering Mandalorian Iron, and blasting armies around like wet cloth is pretty cool. Besides, where are you even going with "significantly above"? Dooku couldn't exert a telekinetic edge over Season 3 Savage, so I'm wondering, do you really think he could do so to Season 5 Savage?
Referring to Maul:
"His power isn’t on Vader’s level, true, or even on Count Dooku’s level — but that never stops him. He stands alongside the Sith Lords only by sheer force of will."
- Son of Dathomir
So unless you're suggesting Savage's Force prowess is equivalent or superior to Maul's, that statement pretty much makes it clear that Dooku is indeed above both of them in terms of sheer Force power.
Savage has never demonstrated the ability to move around large metallic and stone chunks like it was nothing, just like Dooku does against Yoda.
He also manages to blast away a group of Pykes alongside flooring Anakin and Obi-Wan even while they were clearly attempting to resist the wave.
Also lifts a dozen obelisk stones, pulls down a huge metallic bridge down, collapses huge cave-boulders in an attempt to crush Kenobi and Anakin, and just pretty much TKs and chokes everyone around a lot more often and effectively than Savage.