That's some dumb as **** circular logic. Defeating Vaylin is only impressive if Vaylin has actual combat feats. She doesn't, especially when next to zero force abilities were used in the single fight we've seen her in. There's also the fact that Senya was absolutely shit on my Heskal moments before he was shit on by the Outlander, and Outlander you're trying to argue is weaker than Vaylin. Unamped Malak is winning wars with his lightsaber skills, defeating a Revan that was still more powerful than anyone in the Jedi Order, and was still commanding other Sith you like to wank like Sion, Nihilus, and Traya, who everyone conveniently likes to forget were still Sith while Malak was around. Senya has absolutely nothing under her belt, and neither does Vaylin that actually makes them good combatants, which was the point being made.
Yeah people need to stop assuming Vaylin's super duper out of combat TK feats translate into overwhelming ability as a combatant.
Considering that Senya couldn't even match Vaylin's strength in the Force as a child, clearly they do not. Malak is more than capable enough as a duelist and a Force user to replicate Senya's showing.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That's some dumb as **** circular logic. Defeating Vaylin is only impressive if Vaylin has actual combat feats. She doesn't, especially when next to zero force abilities were used in the single fight we've seen her in. There's also the fact that Senya was absolutely shit on my Heskal moments before he was shit on by the Outlander, and Outlander you're trying to argue is weaker than Vaylin. Unamped Malak is winning wars with his lightsaber skills, defeating a Revan that was still more powerful than anyone in the Jedi Order, and was still commanding other Sith you like to wank like Sion, Nihilus, and Traya, who everyone conveniently likes to forget were still Sith while Malak was around. Senya has absolutely nothing under her belt, and neither does Vaylin that actually makes them good combatants, which was the point being made.
Nihilus and Kreia weren't Sith under Revan. 0-o
I'm not entirely sure myself as the RT has been taken down but I believed Vaylin took out a group of zakuul knights with her lightsaber skills alone. Her TK feats are simply better though then anything Malak's demonstrated amped or unamped.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah people need to stop assuming Vaylin's super duper out of combat TK feats translate into overwhelming ability as a combatant.Considering that Senya couldn't even match Vaylin's strength in the Force as a child, clearly they do not. Malak is more than capable enough as a duelist and a Force user to replicate Senya's showing.
How exactly did Senya defeat her? Through the force or lightsaber combat. I thought it had been with a lightsaber.
She evades her telekinetic attacks and yeah, defeats her through lightsaber combat:
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The very first thing Revan did was recruit Kreia and take over Malachor when he returned, kek. Did you even play the game?And Vaylin can kill Knights who sole purpose in life is to die for her and her brother? Golly.
Oh lol. No I've never played the game. Was Nihilus apart of said Sith Empire at the time?
Are you suggesting the knights an hero'ed for her?
Edit: Nevermind. Apparently you have to make up stuff to actually support your arguments. xD
Originally posted by FreshestSliceWhat? No. Kreia discovered Malachor V after Revan left for the Unknown Regions a second time, discovered his old Sith academy, and attempted to continue his legacy.
The very first thing Revan did was recruit Kreia and take over Malachor when he returned, kek. Did you even play the game?
Darth Traya and Revan never met.
EDIT: Nihilus' origins are ambiguous, but he only became what he is under Traya and its implied he was left stranded on Malachor V since the MSG event.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
What? No. Kreia discovered Malachor V after Revan left for the Unknown Regions a second time, discovered his old Sith academy, and attempted to continue his legacy.Darth Traya and Revan never met.
EDIT: Nihilus' origins are ambiguous, but he only became what he is under Traya and its implied he was left stranded on Malachor V since the MSG event.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That's some dumb as **** circular logic. Defeating Vaylin is only impressive if Vaylin has actual combat feats. She doesn't, especially when next to zero force abilities were used in the single fight we've seen her in. There's also the fact that Senya was absolutely shit on my Heskal moments before he was shit on by the Outlander, and Outlander you're trying to argue is weaker than Vaylin. Unamped Malak is winning wars with his lightsaber skills, defeating a Revan that was still more powerful than anyone in the Jedi Order, and was still commanding other Sith you like to wank like Sion, Nihilus, and Traya, who everyone conveniently likes to forget were still Sith while Malak was around. Senya has absolutely nothing under her belt, and neither does Vaylin that actually makes them good combatants, which was the point being made.
Senya was ambushed by Heskal, it amounts to jackshit. And why would I argue the Outlander is weaker than Vaylin when I don't believe that to be true.
Malak also has no particularly notable combat feats, so trying to play that card is weak. Vaylin's feats shit on Malaks in fact. And Malak never won wars with his lightsaber skill, thats a lie.
Also Malak never bossed around the Triumvirate, n00b.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Considering that Senya couldn't even match Vaylin's strength in the Force as a child, clearly they do not.
That was all 3 of her children, not just Vaylin. Also was that before Valkorion sealed Vaylins power?
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Mical says Revan went back to Traya after the Mandalorian Wars, while Kreia says Revan came to her to learn how to leave the Jedi, something he wouldn't do while championing the Jedi. Nihilus was feeding on Malachor, and that means students. I highly doubt Revan would let him roam free.
So all of this is based on your own assumptions.
10/10 fanfic.