Originally posted by Surtur
Here is my thing..I don't care if they are blocking the route to an event or blocking the route to friggin McDonalds. They don't have the right to be doing this kind of shit.I wonder what would happen if people tried to block others from going to a BLM event?
You mean of the shoe was on the other foot? They would riot and kill people, and Claim racism.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You mean of the shoe was on the other foot? They would riot and kill people, and Claim racism.
I don't think they'd kill, but I could definitely see them physically trying to remove people from blockading them.
I can especially imagine if these people showed up in riot gear and ninja masks to blockade a BLM event..it would not be seen as peaceful. People would then say they shouldn't be showing up in riot gear, etc. because they didn't experience racism or oppression in the past.
Even though if it's okay to blockade one event because you don't like it then surely it has to be okay to blockade others for the same reason.
Trump and his family get swarmed with death threats and people have tried to attack Trump.
The guy who attacked him said he wanted to be martyr for the anti-trump movement.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Trump and his family get swarmed with death threats and people have tried to attack Trump.The guy who attacked him said he wanted to be martyr for the anti-trump movement.
Pick any high profile person and it's likely they've had numerous death threats against them. Some people are just morons and they come from all across the political spectrum.
Don't cry foul after you get a taste of your own medicine, this makes Trump supporters look even worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s2dm2AuUr0YouTube video
"Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyYjUvXzeBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZbD_FLSH5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqkmJpUd6qs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KG5ILNJe7k
Should people get violent or break laws when protesting? No. But don't act like Trump's supporters haven't been doing so since day 1. Don't be a hypocrite. It makes Trump supporters look like children: Some act like animals and when someone plays their game they don't like it.
But nobody has been acting like Trump's supporters are all perfect well behaved individuals.
I also haven't heard of any Trump supporters specifically going out and planning to block people from entering certain events or trying to shut down certain events.
It seems most of the incidents involved people who showed up at these Trump events just to disrupt them. Instead of going to a rally for someone they support they decide to go to a rally of someone they hate and start shit.
This is why I've said both sides are getting out of control. No, people at rallies shouldn't be attacking anyone, I don't care if they support Trump, Hilary, Frosty the Snowman, etc.
At the same time..no, people absolutely have NO right to try to shut down events, to try to block people from getting to said events, to get up and jump on top of the hoods of their cars, etc.
Since what happens when some other group shows up to prevent BLM from blocking people. Essentially what if some people show up to block their block? Then what? Does a situation like this end well? I am not even talking about some racist group like the KKK showing up. But just a group of people who think it's bullshit for anyone to try to create some sort of blockade.
Originally posted by Surtur
But nobody has been acting like Trump's supporters are all perfect well behaved individuals.I also haven't heard of any Trump supporters specifically going out and planning to block people from entering certain events or trying to shut down certain events.
It seems most of the incidents involved people who showed up at these Trump events just to disrupt them. Instead of going to a rally for someone they support they decide to go to a rally of someone they hate and start shit.
This is why I've said both sides are getting out of control. No, people at rallies shouldn't be attacking anyone, I don't care if they support Trump, Hilary, Frosty the Snowman, etc.
At the same time..no, people absolutely have NO right to try to shut down events, to try to block people from getting to said events, to get up and jump on top of the hoods of their cars, etc.
Since what happens when some other group shows up to prevent BLM from blocking people. Essentially what if some people show up to block their block? Then what? Does a situation like this end well? I am not even talking about some racist group like the KKK showing up. But just a group of people who think it's bullshit for anyone to try to create some sort of blockade.
Do you want to see how it ends up?
At this point I don't think we have a choice in the matter, we're going to have to see this play out. I just hope nobody from either side does something stupid.
Lol okay I think the ship has sailed on hoping nobody on either side does anything stupid. Lets change that to..I just hope they don't take the stupidity up a notch.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't agree with shutting down roads for a protest. It happens all the time in Europe and it's ****ing annoying.That said, this isn't shutting down democracy because they're not interfering with actual voting and they're not trying to intimidate voters with threats of violence.
Originally posted by Surtur
Here is my thing..I don't care if they are blocking the route to an event or blocking the route to friggin McDonalds. They don't have the right to be doing this kind of shit.
You do know peaceful blockades are a very traditional protest tactic, right? Like, what do you think Martin Luthor King's sit-ins were? Being disruptive-but-not-hurting-anyone is the goal of most protests.
Blocking a road is more than normal (and probably will get some people arrested), but it's not exactly beyond the pale here.
But nobody has been acting like Trump's supporters are all perfect well behaved individuals.I also haven't heard of any Trump supporters specifically going out and planning to block people from entering certain events or trying to shut down certain events.
I have heard them talk about people being put out on 'stretchers,' and the famous suckerpuncher also says they might kill the guy he punch if they came back.
Also threatening of riots at the RNC if things don't go their way.
So no, they haven't blocked people, but they have done plenty else. Frankly peaceful blockades would be better than the intimidation and threats of violence.
Which is, hey, why people are protesting them! Almost as if the two are linked, that their behavior gets people to protest their behavior...
Originally posted by Q99
Which is, hey, why people are protesting them! Almost as if the two are linked, that their behavior gets people to protest their behavior...
Hey I can see your point here, but do you know what I wish? I just wish people would be consistent on this outlook.
Like when a cop kills a minority in a part of the city where most violent crimes are perpetrated by minorities. I wish people would make links then as to why a certain type of behavior might cause a certain type of reaction.
But meh, let's try not to get this way off topic so I'll go back to my original question: BLM shows up at some event with the intention of blockading that event. Then another group shows up..let's call them ALM(All lives matter). They are there with the intent of blocking BLM's blockade.
How should this scenario play out? You can't really say one group can block people but the other can't. So when a group tries to stop another group from creating a blockade, how should this end?
After all one group doesn't have more of a right to disrupt shit then another.