Aquaman, Namor vs Black Adam

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Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
First the whole reason Aquaman took out a White Martian with TP is he attacked it in another part of its brain it wasn't area where a TP battle or probe could of took place which has to do with the conscious which is in the Frontal Lobe, Aquaman attacked the Basal Ganglia which is connected to the bodies nerves which is why he gave a White Martian a Seizure so it goes past typical tp it's not really something you can really out tp I'm not sure if Morrison intended that when he had Aquaman do that.
The speed thing honestly hasn't been shown in anyways that's true... travel wise on land? Sure but let's assume Teth speeds his way to Aquaman, he has the feats to suggest he can react.
The team thing is nice. Post-Crisis Aquaman has out muscled a All-Knowing something that physically beat Powergirl in the same arc. Killed Timmorn something giving Aquaman, Sentinel (Alan Scott) and Jay trouble, traded blows with Despero in Crisis on Conscience ironically written by Johns, Consistently beat up Triton a guy able to subdue a young Diana and beat on a young Arthur. Took a sustained blast from Starro same book was shown to one shot Orion in space. Fell from Orbit at speeds faster then thought. Ragdolled around by Amazo and was fine, has been able to hurt Amazo. Able to impress Titus as well. I agree Pre-Flashpoint Adam is stronger but I don't see it as a stomp on any regard. I don't think he puts him down in a few Punches at all. Aquaman has taken worse from repetitive team busters he just doesn't get the writer hot seat often and pretty much Johns has treated him pretty highly in terms of being a powerhouse.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/aquaman/4005-2357/forums/arthur-curry-aka-aquaman-composite-respect-thread-1774986/

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EcstaticGrace Senior Member

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Start counting down the hours because you're dead tomorrow

You plan on debating with me, quoting more out of context scans??

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
First the whole reason Aquaman took out a White Martian with TP is he attacked it in another part of its brain it wasn't area where a TP battle or probe could of took place which has to do with the conscious which is in the Frontal Lobe, Aquaman attacked the Basal Ganglia which is connected to the bodies nerves which is why he gave a White Martian a Seizure so it goes past typical tp it's not really something you can really out tp I'm not sure if Morrison intended that when he had Aquaman do that.
The speed thing honestly hasn't been shown in anyways that's true... travel wise on land? Sure but let's assume Teth speeds his way to Aquaman, he has the feats to suggest he can react.
The team thing is nice. Post-Crisis Aquaman has out muscled a All-Knowing something that physically beat Powergirl in the same arc. Killed Timmorn something giving Aquaman, Sentinel (Alan Scott) and Jay trouble, traded blows with Despero in Crisis on Conscience ironically written by Johns, Consistently beat up Triton a guy able to subdue a young Diana and beat on a young Arthur. Took a sustained blast from Starro same book was shown to one shot Orion in space. Fell from Orbit at speeds faster then thought. Ragdolled around by Amazo and was fine, has been able to hurt Amazo. Able to impress Titus as well. I agree Pre-Flashpoint Adam is stronger but I don't see it as a stomp on any regard. I don't think he puts him down in a few Punches at all. Aquaman has taken worse from repetitive team busters he just doesn't get the writer hot seat often and pretty much Johns has treated him pretty highly in terms of being a powerhouse.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/aquaman/4005-2357/forums/arthur-curry-aka-aquaman-composite-respect-thread-1774986/

The White Martians were pretty much fodder who kept getting one shotted. Flash one shotted one with an infinite mass punch. Flash one shotted another by throwing his weapon back on him. Kyle one shotted one by punching it with a construct. Superman took one out in first punch it showed him throw.
Why should I put stock in Aqualad taking one out like that? And following your logic, Waterboy can simply do this to anyone because you think he doesn't need to enter his mind like that. You're applying a no limits fallacy and then you're going to start putting arbitrary limits on it once I question it. Why can't he do this to Silver Surfer, Thanos, Superman, Xavier, Dark Phoenix, Cassandra Nova? Why can't Aquaman simply beat them like this too?
Not to mention, you ****ing rights it was tp. Just because it wasn't explicably stated that he was entering his mind, doesn't mean he wasn't entering his mind. You're making up context and assuming that it's indefensible. You know how to defend against that? TP defense. You know what White Martians lacked that entire story? Any semblance of defense. You answer me however why a tp battle couldn't take place there? Uh uh... because basil... No, that's not how things work. He simply entered his brain and went for the most vulnerable part of it against a guy who was literally making fun of Aquaman because he had "no powers".

And last but not least, you're taking a story where Aquaman got one shotted by a water spout.
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Couldn't give a shit about speed. But no, Aquamen is nowhere near as fast. That's stupid to even entertain.

And you're posting feats that are like knock off brands of Black Adam's and assuming they apply.
"He beat a guy who beat Powergirl"

"Killed Timmorn something giving Aquaman, Sentinel (Alan Scott) and Jay trouble"
Here's Black Adam running through Power Girl, Hawkgirl, Alan, Hour Man, Hawkman, Jay

Even if you extend that which I predict you will do, it had Black Adam beating up Lyta Hall while Hawkman with Alan Scott pouring his power into his mace failed to put him down with essentially cheapshots, while Bladam was weakening
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Funny thing is as soon as the surprise wore off, Black Adam actually caught the mace, and then the fight was stopped. Aquaman is so close to his strength and durability!

"traded blows with Despero in Crisis on Conscience ironically written by Johns"

Here's Adam trading blows with and defeated Billy with Shazam's power
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"Consistently beat up Triton a guy able to subdue a young Diana and beat on a young Arthur."

"Took a sustained blast from Starro same book was shown to one shot Orion in space. Fell from Orbit at speeds faster then thought."

Gets knocked to the moon by Onimar Synn and rams him into the planet and taking a couple shots while being none the worse for wear
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"Ragdolled around by Amazo and was fine, has been able to hurt Amazo."

I don't even know why you'd bring that up. You have to know what's coming right?

"Able to impress Titus as well."

Anyway, here's Black Adam knocking around the General, Uber and Amazo in an ambush and it took Grodd, Pycho Purate, and Silver Banshee to bring him down. Two people beyond Aquaman, and especially Pycho Purate
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Aquaman is nowhere near Bladam in strength. Not even close

And I'm not looking at any of that respect thread. You want to prove your point, then do it. Don't just throw a deck of cards at me and tell me you have 4 of a kind. You're just blasting a load and hoping one makes it to the egg. I'm not sifting through your load

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
WW3 hinged on the idea that Black Adam with no restraints is capable of doing everything he was doing because others weren't as ruthless and willing to hold back to compete with him. I saw it as plot. In the end of the day Martian Manhunter tpd him.
Aquaman's also is more consistently ruthless then J'onn atleast Pre-Flashpoint
J'onn is consistently the better telepath but Post-Crisis it was stated to be growing over time in terms of telepathy.
Ancient Atlanteans in reference to next link
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Telepathically battles Kordax
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Martian Manhunter fought him tooth and nail while Black Adam was fighting every other hero, and Adam was straight up fighting back after having all the pain of the martians implanted in his brain. How exactly is that going to help Aquaman?
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Because Aquaman has the telepathic abilities of Martian Manhunter with the distraction of every hero while Black Adam is actively fighting both. Great feat to bring up.

MM passively trying to read the minds of them is not the same as Aquaman unleashing all hell on them. MM unleashed all hell on Black Adam however. And once Black Adam was pissed enough, Pycho Purate had no effect on him. Which is the same type of state he'll be for this fight.

EcstaticGrace Senior Member

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Martian Manhunter fought him tooth and nail while Black Adam was fighting every other hero, and Adam was straight up fighting back after having all the pain of the martians implanted in his brain. How exactly is that going to help Aquaman?
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Black%20Adam/WWIIIB4-p19.jpg.html
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Because Aquaman has the telepathic abilities of Martian Manhunter with the distraction of every hero while Black Adam is actively fighting both. Great feat to bring up.
MM passively trying to read the minds of them is not the same as Aquaman unleashing all hell on them. MM unleashed all hell on Black Adam however. And once Black Adam was pissed enough, Pycho Purate had no effect on him. Which is the same type of state he'll be for this fight.

Basal Ganglia has nothing to do with a battle of minds or the conscious or anything like that. It's not something you out will or overpower. It's a part of your mind that's connected to the nerves of your body its connected to your entire brain stem and controls your bodies ability to function and move.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_ganglia#

It has nothing to do with out willing a user or resisting.

http://imgur.com/a/bBKS7

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Basal Ganglia has nothing to do with a battle of minds or the conscious or anything like that. It's not something you out will or overpower. It's a part of your mind that's connected to the nerves of your body its connected to your entire brain stem and controls your bodies ability to function and move.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_ganglia#
It has nothing to do with out willing a user or resisting.
http://imgur.com/a/bBKS7

So we assume you're correct with your adding invisible context to the scene, which leads us to a question already proposed:

Who is the strongest person Aquaman can take out with this attack and why is his limit there?

EcstaticGrace Senior Member

Originally posted by One Big Mob
So we assume you're correct with your adding invisible context to the scene, which leads us to a question already proposed:
Who is the strongest person Aquaman can take out with this attack and why is his limit there?

Are you really that dense there's context for you to read it yourself... look up where the conscious is located in the brain look up where a TP struggle should take place between brains. The Basal Ganglia is something completely different that's why Aquaman was able to take down a Martian with TP because it wasnt a Telepathic battle and that's the strongest person he took down with a nerve strike a White Martian.

WW3 like said in the thread has special circumstances to it as well that you seem to be ignoring as well which has been brought up in this thread.

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Are you really that dense there's context for you to read it yourself... look up where the conscious is located in the brain look up where a TP struggle should take place between brains. The Basal Ganglia is something completely different that's why Aquaman was able to take down a Martian with TP because it wasnt a Telepathic battle and that's the strongest person he took down with a nerve strike a White Martian.
WW3 like said in the thread has special circumstances to it as well that you seem to be ignoring as well which has been brought up in this thread.

Where was it stated that there is no defense for this? Where was it stated that it simply bypasses all telepathic defense? He was controlling the brain and telling it to do something. You need a scan showing that this type of attack is different because simply posting a wiki link like it disproves telepathy defense when tp doesn't even exist in theory in that link doesn't cut it.

What am I ignoring? Black Adam was angry and somehow his tp defense was higher based on you? Half his ****ing history is him being pissed and the forum rules dictate he fights in character to the best of his abilities. Irrelevant observation. He never got added tp defense, the circumstances are irrelevant.
But yes, let's speak of ignoring things when you abandoned all your other posts in favor of no limiting THE BASIL. You are literally outright ignoring a question directed at you in favor of deflecting attention away. You're ignoring the purpose of those scans in the first place because you used the scene to display a telepathic weakness for Black Adam and then backtracked immediately into THE BASIL when you realized it.

Not to mention Bladam only got put on his knees and stunned from a football sized object being phased into his brain.

So we go back to my question. No deflection, you answer it without dancing around.

Who is the most powerful person Aquaman can defeat with this attack and why is that his limit?

If you need an example, let's go with Aquaman vs Cassandra Nova where the first thing he does is go for her THE BASIL. What happens?

EcstaticGrace Senior Member

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Where was it stated that there is no defense for this? Where was it stated that it simply bypasses all telepathic defense? He was controlling the brain and telling it to do something. You need a scan showing that this type of attack is different because simply posting a wiki link like it disproves telepathy defense when tp doesn't even exist in theory in that link doesn't cut it.
What am I ignoring? Black Adam was angry and somehow his tp defense was higher based on you? Half his ****ing history is him being pissed and the forum rules dictate he fights in character to the best of his abilities. Irrelevant observation. He never got added tp defense, the circumstances are irrelevant.
But yes, let's speak of ignoring things when you abandoned all your other posts in favor of no limiting THE BASIL. You are literally outright ignoring a question directed at you in favor of deflecting attention away. You're ignoring the purpose of those scans in the first place because you used the scene to display a telepathic weakness for Black Adam and then backtracked immediately into THE BASIL when you realized it.
Not to mention Bladam only got put on his knees and stunned from a football sized object being phased into his brain.
So we go back to my question. No deflection, you answer it without dancing around.
[B]Who is the most powerful person Aquaman can defeat with this attack and why is that his limit?
If you need an example, let's go with Aquaman vs Cassandra Nova where the first thing he does is go for her THE BASIL. What happens? [/B]

Where did I suggest there's no defense for it? It seems to be comprehending what I've posted that's the problem. What I suggested is that it's not a traditional Telepathic assault it has nothing to do with a TP struggle, a battle of minds or attacking the conscious. I'm sure if Black Adam can control his nerves it won't work on him I'm sure if he has some anti brain assault ability it won't touch him. That's not the case though is it? His mind can be entered giving someone a Seizure isn't the same as implanting thoughts in someone's conscious or Probing them which is more of a Frontal Lobe aspect of the brain.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe

Frontal Lobe has the memory and conscious. Basal Ganglia connects to various in the brains and most noticeably connects to the nerves.

I'm not ignoring anything you've yet to post anything worth attention. You keep saying Teth did this to Martian Manhunter in WW3 and I mentioned it the circumstances were different Teth was in a different state of mind and Martian Manhunter doesn't have that ruthlessness it was pure plot mainly but for the most part is irrelevant given the TP instances are different. Probing, Implanting Thoughts and emotions and giving a Seizure are different I don't understand how that's hard to understand.

I don't know who Cassandra Nova is or why that's relevant here but it's possible he can just bring someone who can show he can.

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Essentially, are you saying its a TK thing then? That Aquaman used his mind, and essentially nerve punched the Martian?

Because Arthur has never shown TK.

Moreover, hasn't pre 52 (if using him) tank a football sized black hole in his brain?

EcstaticGrace Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Essentially, are you saying its a TK thing then? That Aquaman used his mind, and essentially nerve punched the Martian?
Because Arthur has never shown TK.
Moreover, hasn't pre 52 (if using him) tank a football sized black hole in his brain?

Sigh, trust me I've read a lot of Aquaman and I'll correct you on two things here.

First no that's not what I'm suggesting, if you read what I posted you'll see what I suggested was Aquaman attacked a certain area of the mind. Telepathically given the look of it, but it wasn't an area of the mind that has anything to do with a battle of wills and conscious I don't know if it was intentional by Morrison but what Aquaman struck was something in the brain that controls the bodies nerves. Reason why the White Martian got a seizure. Does that make sense?

In terms of Aquaman never shown to use TK.
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One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Where did I suggest there's no defense for it? It seems to be comprehending what I've posted that's the problem. What I suggested is that it's not a traditional Telepathic assault it has nothing to do with a TP struggle, a battle of minds or attacking the conscious. I'm sure if Black Adam can control his nerves it won't work on him I'm sure if he has some anti brain assault ability it won't touch him. That's not the case though is it? His mind can be entered giving someone a Seizure isn't the same as implanting thoughts in someone's conscious or Probing them which is more of a Frontal Lobe aspect of the brain.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe
Frontal Lobe has the memory and conscious. Basal Ganglia connects to various in the brains and most noticeably connects to the nerves.
I'm not ignoring anything you've yet to post anything worth attention. You keep saying Teth did this to Martian Manhunter in WW3 and I mentioned it the circumstances were different Teth was in a different state of mind and Martian Manhunter doesn't have that ruthlessness it was pure plot mainly but for the most part is irrelevant given the TP instances are different. Probing, Implanting Thoughts and emotions and giving a Seizure are different I don't understand how that's hard to understand.
I don't know who Cassandra Nova is or why that's relevant here but it's possible he can just bring someone who can show he can.

So essentially Aquaman can beat anyone as long as they don't have "anti brain assault defense" (which is conveniently what tp defense has been conveyed as), or nerve defense. One of which I don't think has ever been a power, and one of which is covered under tp defense.
You're trying to use an extreme outlier to create a telepathic loophole with only wiki links to back you up in a world without telepathy. Let's be clear here, you have no proof at all that it's seperate from telepathic defense. This feat only exists within your mind, and you're using a lack of context to cover your own ass. Not only that, but you're using an example which I'm pretty sure is the only time it's ever been mentioned in comics to say that it definitely will work for certain against a guy who withstood a football sized field being placed in his brain. You have nothing, you are nothing. I'm only entertaining the idea of how far you're willing to take this.
And last but not least, you're pretty much mixing it with telekinesis when you say shit like it can't actively be defended against unless you already have safeguards in place. It's stupid.
In other words, you're relying on a no limits fallacy and you've dropped absolutely every other power Aquaman has to focus solely on this one instance.

Now we'll get back to your imaginary "better than tp tp" feat.

I keep mentioning it because you keep mentioning it. You brought it up as a downfall for Black Adam. Unlike you I don't fail to answer things that "frighten" me. You were wrong. Your example fails. You tried to use it to downplay Black Adam and it didn't work. Complete opposite actually. Now you're acting like I shouldn't bring up your failure because of "circumstances".
And for whatever reason the only thing that's relevant in WW3 Adam being more ruthless is something way out of norm. I mean Adam getting really mad when he's always mad is unheard of.

You realize you're still dancing around don't you? The example was only given to aid you in the question, not the question itself.

Let's try this again with 2 different people so you can't dance around it

What would happen if Aquaman did this to Superman?

What would happen if Aquaman did this to Martian Manhunter?

And

Who is the most powerful person Aquaman can do this to and why is this his limit?

Juntai Divine Vengeance

I always took it as reasoning for his TP being expanded to work on humanoids, rather than some bypass that makes his TP stronger than anyone elses.
Despero flat out owned him in a TP battle.

EcstaticGrace Senior Member

Originally posted by One Big Mob
So essentially Aquaman can beat anyone as long as they don't have "anti brain assault defense" (which is conveniently what tp defense has been conveyed as), or nerve defense. One of which I don't think has ever been a power, and one of which is covered under tp defense.
You're trying to use an extreme outlier to create a telepathic loophole with only wiki links to back you up in a world without telepathy. Let's be clear here, you have no proof at all that it's seperate from telepathic defense. This feat only exists within your mind, and you're using a lack of context to cover your own ass. Not only that, but you're using an example which I'm pretty sure is the only time it's ever been mentioned in comics to say that it definitely will work for certain against a guy who withstood a football sized field being places in his brain. You have nothing, you are nothing. I'm only entertaining the idea of how far you're willing to take this.
And last but not least, you're pretty much mixing it with telekinesis when you say shit like it can't actively be defended against unless you already have safeguards in place. It's stupid.
In other words, you're relying on a no limits fallacy and you've dropped absolutely every other power Aquaman has to focus solely on this one instance.
Now we'll get back to your imaginary "better than tp tp" feat.
I keep mentioning it because you keep mentioning it. You brought it up as a downfall for Black Adam. Unlike you I don't fail to answer things that "frighten" me. You were wrong. Your example fails. You tried to use it to downplay Black Adam and it didn't work. Complete opposite actually. Now you're acting like I shouldn't bring up your failure because of "circumstances".
And for whatever reason the only thing that's relevant in WW3 Adam being more ruthless is something way out of norm. I mean Adam getting really mad when he's always mad is unheard of.
You realize you're still dancing around don't you? The example was only given to aid you in the question, not the question itself.
Let's try this again with 2 different people so you can't dance around it
What would happen if Aquaman did this to Superman?
What would happen if Aquaman did this to Martian Manhunter?
And
Who is the most powerful person Aquaman can do this to and why is this his limit?

What does having a space the size of a football field have anything to do with this impressive TP defense your suggesting Teth has? It didn't stop him from being overwhelmed by Martian Manhunter implanting thoughts in his mind did it? Where the hell have I suggested it was TK instead of replying why don't you read my post repetitively until your able to absorb it into that head of yours. I'll agree it's an outlier for the most part but so is WW3 Adam overloading MMH if we go that route.

If you want my honest opinion given history Aquaman has already showed he can TP Superman take that as you will I'm sure you will

Martian Manhunter I'd assume he should be able to do it to if he can do it to other Martians that suggest that part of the brain, Martians seem to have it as well.

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by Juntai
I always took it as reasoning for his TP being expanded to work on humanoids, rather than some bypass that makes his TP stronger than anyone elses.
Despero flat out owned him in a TP battle.

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That's exactly it. He even says it when he talks of the marine life.

For some reason that got severely twisted into being a backdoor for him to ruin anyone's life in tp.

EcstaticGrace Senior Member

Originally posted by Juntai
I always took it as reasoning for his TP being expanded to work on humanoids, rather than some bypass that makes his TP stronger than anyone elses.
Despero flat out owned him in a TP battle.

That was a battle of wills rather then a straight up attack in a certain area of the mind. I take it as plot.

I'm not suggesting it's the most powerful form of telepathy in suggesting it's not the way telepathy is typically portrayed.

EcstaticGrace Senior Member

Originally posted by One Big Mob
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That's exactly it. He even says it when he talks of the marine life.
For some reason that got severely twisted into being a backdoor for him to ruin anyone's life in tp.

All he says is its shared with Marine Life that it's a part of the brain shared with marine ancestors that doesn't change the fact on what that part of the brain is and what it is capable of and that Aquaman has access to it.

Aquaman has tpd non humanoids as well. Elementals, Demons even Machines in a sense. His tp was being expanded over time being said because his curse and Bloodline his telepathic abilities were growing over time.

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
What does having a space the size of a football field have anything to do with this impressive TP defense your suggesting Teth has? It didn't stop him from being overwhelmed by Martian Manhunter implanting thoughts in his mind did it? Where the hell have I suggested it was TK instead of replying why don't you read my post repetitively until your able to absorb it into that head of yours. I'll agree it's an outlier for the most part but so is WW3 Adam overloading MMH if we go that route.
If you want my honest opinion given history Aquaman has already showed he can TP Superman take that as you will I'm sure you will
Martian Manhunter I'd assume he should be able to do it to if he can do it to other Martians that suggest that part of the brain, Martians seem to have it as well.

Because the whole purpose of this is to overload his nerves when he had a football sized field placed in his brain that hit yes, THE BASIL which would therefore screw with his nerves. Causing the same ****ing purpose as your imaginary backdoor on a higher level.

There you go bringing up Martian Manhunter again. Remember when Adam actively fought back against that... oh wait I'm bringing up WW3 again!

Because what you're speaking of is describing tk if it's exactly like you say. I'm not the only one that picked up on this. You're trying to say it's different in a way that describes tk.

Good thing he resisted Pycho Purate then. Also his tp defense wasn't raised in WW3 either, so...

Really, he doesn't even need the Estaticgrace TP loophole to finish off Superman?
****ing no

So now we're getting somewhere with Martian Manhunter. But you seemed to have ignored the other question:

What are Aquaman's limits with this attack? Who in your opinion is the strongest person Aquaman can take down with this attack and why is this his limit?

Do I have to ask this 4 more times to get an answer? You seem to pick up on every other word of my posts, but you become blind to this question.

EcstaticGrace Senior Member

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Because the whole purpose of this is to overload his nerves when he had a football sized field placed in his brain that hit yes, THE BASIL which would therefore screw with his nerves. Causing the same ****ing purpose as your imaginary backdoor on a higher level.
There you go bringing up Martian Manhunter again. Remember when Adam actively fought back against that... oh wait I'm bringing up WW3 again!
Because what you're speaking of is describing tk if it's exactly like you say. I'm not the only one that picked up on this. You're trying to say it's different in a way that describes tk.
Good thing he resisted Pycho Purate then. Also his tp defense wasn't raised in WW3 either, so...
Really, he doesn't even need the Estaticgrace TP loophole to finish off Superman?
****ing no
So now we're getting somewhere with Martian Manhunter. But you seemed to have ignored the other question:
What are Aquaman's limits with this attack? Who in your opinion is the strongest person Aquaman can take down with this attack and why is this his limit?
Do I have to ask this 4 more times to get an answer? You seem to pick up on every other word of my posts, but you become blind to this question.

What are you talking about noone suggested overloading the nerves. Please comprehend what I post you've misworded what I've posted a couple times already.

I didn't say overload his nerves, I didn't say put in anything or expand his nerves or his body. I did suggest controlling the part of his mind which controls the function of his nerves... I hope you see why that's different.

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
What are you talking about noone suggested overloading the nerves. Please comprehend what I post you've misworded what I've posted a couple times already.
I didn't say overload his nerves, I didn't say put in anything or expand his nerves or his body. I did suggest controlling the part of his mind which controls the function of his nerves... I hope you see why that's different.

What in the living shit does it even matter? I say overloading because a total shutdown of the ****ing thing would be the most effective course of action. Simply controlling his nerves gives him the chance to Shazam also. Like ****'s sake, you're trying to say I'm misinterpretting you because I'm thinking of an engame attack while you're just talking about teehee I moved your arm.

A football sized object was opened up inside his brain. This is a lot more serious than "controlling his nerves" and Bladam resisted that well enough. I hope you understand a dimensional hole the size of a football field being opened in his head is a lot more damaging than anything H2Oboy has ever done with telepathy.

Again you're trying to weasel into loopholes like the weasel you are. "I didn't say overloading, I meant controlling because I'm just adding that" good, even if this happens Adam just Shazams the second it happens. We're back at square one. It's a shit attack made up in your own mind. I'm only entertaining your wet Aquaman fantasies while you haven't even begun to prove it could work. You can't even answer a theoretical limit of your made up attack. And you've dropped everything on an attack you can't even adequately defend. If I didn't enjoy your squirming so much I'd stop entertaining it, but it's delightful.

Aquaman tping Superman though... that's a riot and a half

You also by some miracle managed to ignore the question again.
5th time's the charm. You speak of misinterpretting while you blatantly dance around a repeated question like the plague. Look at you weaseling around looking for any mice you can gather in your weasely little face.

Who in your opinion is the strongest person Aquaman can take down with this attack and why is this his limit?