Beniboybling
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Originally posted by AncientPower
@BeniDifference being Kenobi is a defensive duelist at this time, which is even worse when you consider Makashi butchers Soresu, compared to Maul facing Jinn and Kenobi, both of whom were heavy Ataru users.
Makashi butchers Soresu? OK but really, source?
Fact is Dooku contended at once with two significantly greater combatants than Jinn and Kenobi. No stylistic advantage is implied beyond Dooku's exceptional skill, so we've no reason to believe he the latter would press him at all. Nor is there reason to believe Dooku would anymore pressed 1 v 1 by Padawan Kenobi, when he's destroyed him in AotC.
We don't see exactly how short it is, but Maul floors Secura and is implied to be capable of beating Mace.
Which is grounds for assuming it was at all substantial? And where?
A problem he'll face here given Maul is even stronger than his brother as evidenced by Maul's Lockdown feats.
His Lockdown feats are impressive, but we've no reason to assume Savage couldn't do better when he's more physically overpowering in combat than Maul has ever been shown to be.
Yeh well this time there wasn't any bullshit surrounding the fight.
Ventress defeated him fair and square on Dathomir, of course Dooku would hand him his ass.
The Pre Viszla fight was Maul putting on a show as Filoni confirmed.
Fair enough.
Dooku was not contending with Yoda, two sources claim so, every other says he was way out of his depth entirely. Darth Maul via rage nearly killed Palpatine after days of shitty conditions, well before TPM. Maul stands about as much chance as Dooku against such a level of opponent.
OK but let's look at the facts. Dooku was able to hold out against Yoda for 30 seconds without being defeated, within that time Sidious had Maul (who if anything was amped on rage) on the floor, begging for mercy.
Dooku is stated in the RoTS novel to have "held strong" against Yoda's assault, where Maul is not even able to perceive Palpatine's blades.
It's pretty clear who performed better.
Heck let's not forget Dooku apparently a peer to Windu, who was in turn able to stalemate against Darth Sidious himself, with an amp granted, but technical skill is what's important here.
The Revenge of the Sith novel says Yoda never had a chance, compared to a junior book claiming otherwise.
Again, the facts. The RoTS script states that Yoda initially drove Sidious into retreat, and then disarmed him in lightsaber combat.
Dooku makes up for it mostly sure, but Maul isn't Opress, infact he pretty easily rivals Anakin in physicals.
He really doesn't, at least not RoTS Anakin. Nor is he a Djem So stylist. Speed frankly is more important than strength for a Juyo user, and in that Dooku has him beat.
I honestly don't see why the argument Dooku is > Maul in anything has any feet to stand on given Maul is implied to be superior in Shadow of Dathomir.
Shadow of Dathomir? What is that a limited collector's edition? Again Barlow states Dooku is better, so right back at you.