Wonder Woman

Started by roughrider108 pages

Originally posted by TheGrat1
"Why would they?"

Because characters with a documented record of killing in movies, tv shows, and even comic books have recently been catching hell for doing just that; even when the act is done defensively or reluctantly.
Contrasted with Wonder Woman who seems positively chipper at the prospect of killing Ares, and has no qualms about mowing down mere mortals (mere mortals she considers relatively innocent, btw), the fact that no one in critical circles seems to care surprises me.
So she is from an island of warriors. Does this give her a license to kill? She makes it clear in the film thst she wants to protect life, but slaughters nearly every German she sees.

For the record: I couldn't care less that she killed. It's the fact that no critics seem to even bring it up when Kal gets put through the wringer for kills people thought he made (African warlord) or "not saving people fast enough" (flood scene) makes me scratch my head.

I'll say it again: it was during wartime. And being basically under Steve Trevor's command, anything she did was done with his endorsement. It's like Captain America in his first two solo movies, basically having license to kill combatants because he's under the command of a government body (the U.S military in WW2, SHIELD in modern times.)

This controversy about the DC heroes comes from what we've seen in the other recent movies. People point to Superman killing General Zod as a last resort in Man Of Steel, but that didn't bother me anywhere near as much as his reckless fighting in Smallville and Metropolis, with the massive property damage and (what turned out to be) thousands of civilian casualties. But I would eventually forgive that as part of his journey of learning to use his power properly - by BvS, he made early efforts to get Doomsday off Earth to save the people, though it didn't work.

Batman was worse in BvS, moving down bad guys with machine guns on the Batmobile. For all the effort to pay homage to The Dark Knight Returns in the movie, they forgot that not even Frank Miller's Batman killed people.

If it seems unfair that the DC heroes are held to a standard the Marvel heroes aren't (and most of them don't kill their opponents either), blame DC for going so far over the top in the comics to keep Superman and Batman's hands 'clean.' That business last decade with Maxwell Lord getting killed by Diana to save both Bats and Supes (and having the two of them turn on her because of it) still grates on me.

Just got back from this.
I enjoyed it.

Gadot and Pine were good in their roles. Origin story was good. DC actually listened and added some humanity, humor(subtle not cringe like JL trailer).
WW is likable and her being naive and humble and its change of pace from DC's totally unlikable douche bag "look at me im so badass" Snyder characters.

Things that I didnt like:
Ending was pretty bad. End of big fight was bad. Trevor pretty much did a Cap first Avenger thing.
WW theme is still awful and takes out the scenes its played on.
All the Snyder slow motion scenes were bad. Especially in the begging with the Amazons.
Lasso effects looked off. It was too bright.
Diana's accent was different from all the other Amazons.

Anyhow , overall i enjoyed it.

6.5-7/10 for me as of right now. Finally DC makes a movie that isnt total crap.
Keep it up.

The leaks I posted a few months back were spot on.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I just can't fathom what people see in this movie. It's absolutely average at best.
What other movies do you like and dislike my son? I'm trying to discern whether or not you have bad taste. This film's solid reception has me cautiously optimistic that it will be good, but people gave The Force Awakens a good reception as well and that movie ****ing blows cock. So I want to see how your taste aligns with my own.

Just got back from seeing the movie

at least an 8/10 from me

the end fight might have had lots of CG but at least it was handled better in this movie compared to BvS

and they could've picked someone better for Ares, I would've been fine if Danny Huston ended up being him

also what a crock of shit, This movie is boring

I got only 1 question....Is there a Credit Cut Scene?!

Originally posted by TheGrat1

Because characters with a documented record of killing in movies, tv shows, and even comic books have recently been catching hell for doing just that; even when the act is done defensively or reluctantly.
Contrasted with Wonder Woman who seems positively chipper at the prospect of killing Ares, and has no qualms about mowing down mere mortals (mere mortals she considers relatively innocent, btw), the fact that no one in critical circles seems to care surprises me.
So she is from an island of warriors. Does this give her a license to kill? She makes it clear in the film thst she wants to protect life, but slaughters nearly every German she sees.

Exactly which characters have recently been "catching hell" for killing?
John Wick?
Jack Reacher?
Fast & Furious crew????

Chipper at killing Ares?
You can only blame WW for being naive thinking that killing one person would stop the war.

Slaughters every German she sees...
Ummm yeah they were after all the enemies. Pretty obvious that if she saw them it was pretty much because they were firing guns at her.

Looks like pretty much everyone is in agreement that this is good.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Looks like pretty much everyone is in agreement that this is good.

Have you seen it yet?
Or even remotely interested in seeing WW?

Honestly...and I'm not having a go at you...I admit that Gadot's acting needs to improve but once you properly see her in her role...it's laughable to even contemplate that Bunt, Lawrence or Clark would've done better.

Originally posted by Inhuman

Diana's accent was different from all the other Amazons.

So between the blonde, brunette & dark skinned Amazons...what was Diana's accent supposed to be like more?

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Have you seen it yet?
Or even remotely interested in seeing WW?

Honestly...and I'm not having a go at you...I admit that Gadot's acting needs to improve but once you properly see her in her role...it's laughable to even contemplate that Bunt, Lawrence or Clark would've done better.

Just can't at the moment. It took me a couple of weeks to see GOTG2 btw. WW might take longer tbh. Because by the time I can realistically go cinema Spider-Man will be out, so will probably rush out to watch that first.

Those were just famous names I pooped out. Less famous names who look the part and are decent actors would be my preferred choice.

I like Joss Whedon's first choice of Cobie Smulders for his cancelled Wonder Woman film. And also think Adrianne Palicki wasn't a bad choice for the cancelled Wonder Woman Tv show.

Either way I'm sure Gadot's fine. She's not the reason I haven't seen this yet. And I definitely will watch this before I see Justice League.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
So between the blonde, brunette & dark skinned Amazons...what was Diana's accent supposed to be like more?

Honestly just not keen on them going with an accent at all. But again, I'm sure Gadot is fine.

Smulders as WW? 😂

Megan Gale (Australian model) not Fox, was George Miller's 1st choice when he had the JLA project.

And Gale freely admitted the 1st thing she did was enrol in acting classes.

^ It seems getting a really beautiful woman was always the priority for the casting of Wonder Woman.

Smulders is already MCU Maria Hill in anyways.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Smulders is already MCU Maria Hill in anyways.

It was before that.

Not that such a minor role as Maria Hill would stop her auditioning for Wonder Woman lol.

IIRC Jamie Alexander auditioned.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ It seems getting a really beautiful woman was always the priority for the casting of Wonder Woman.

Well it's not like Hollywood open casted any African Americans or Asians for the role of Bruce or Clark either.

Kinda makes sense a "beautiful woman" was a priority.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
So between the blonde, brunette & dark skinned Amazons...what was Diana's accent supposed to be like more?

Dunno. I guess a bit more in sync with the others and not so much like an Israel accent. Didn't bother me too much though. Gadot was fine in the role like I said.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]I got only 1 question....Is there a Credit Cut Scene?! [/B]

go find out

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
go find out

But I may have to Whizz like Crazy,, I don't wanna have to crotch crunch for 20 minutes setting thru that crap if I don't HAVE TO!!!!!

Nobody will tell you, fly. Now log out.