Originally posted by Syndicate
Eh? Did you think I was referring to that zombie army they raised during Grievous's assault? No, I was saying in general if they could make someone a Dooku level force user then why wouldn't they have been doing so for years before that point?I guess it's just how you interpret it. I see Palpatine saying "You could have been my successor." As "You could have been superior to me in combat and therefore rested the mantle from me like every Rule of Two Sith has done before this point." And then his next statement "You could have been mt equal." As a reference to his title and position as Emperor of the Galactic Empire.
I'm hearing a lot of excuses but that's fine. I don't need to address them until I exhaust all my examples of which there are many. How was Vaylin not able to overcome her mother despite her superiority? How was the Hero of Tython able to resist and ragdoll Vitiate who even in the state he was in had much better feats then him? How was Galen able to land a telekinetic push on Abeloth who was stated to be a dozen times more powerful then him?
He said successor mate. That's pretty clear to me.
You're definitely correct he would still have vast reserves. The point is though he was not at his peak capabilities when he fought Vader and Sidious. That was partially a joke ( although it could be true from what I know of other character's lightning ). Also he did use lightning and TK to defeat the Imperials in his path. I'm not sure what you meant to do there by questioning that.
If it's not backed up by evidence I just don't see how they're relevant personally. You're correct and because of that I believe Sidious would be capable of such a feat. Unlike you though I don't see why Sidious wouldn't have his defenses up. That's your own opinion. You don't know what a comparatively powerful force user is capable of against a superior opponent and neither do I. Read above for my other examples of superior force users failing to overcome weaker ones or lesser force users affecting more powerful ones.
I did think you were talking of the zombie army. Ok, how about the night sisters never wanted to be involved in galactic affairs. They wanted to stay secret, and were loyal to each other so there was no reason to create an army that large. They had isolated themselves off from the rest of the galaxy, and never to my knowledge ever attacked the republic or were a threat for them to anticipate that army would be needed.
How could you interpret it that way? We have seen Sidious say outright when someone would have surpassed him in Anakin, so why would he need to withhold that now? So the only reason i see someone saying they interpret it in that way is to walk Galen, when the next line from his mouth says my equal.
I don't read much into that era so i really don't know any of the context about that, but i will say is that all the examples before you showed all had reasonable answers to them but instead you dismiss them as excuses when they aren't. The point is Galen is powerful, but not the point he can up and rag doll Sidious. At least a defenses up complete sidious. When did Galen fight Abeloth?
Yea. He did say successor, but next words out of his mouth were MY EQUAL. Im not seeing how there is any room for interpretation here.
My point there is to kind of put his endurance into a less bloated position then what you had it. Because if he were this monster of the force with so much endurance as you say, why would his force reserves weak? The point was to get you to understand partially how you overestimate Galen. It wouldn't matter because once he fought Sidioius, he could have been at perfect health, they would at best if his full power came to bear which it wouldn't for an entire battle, but they would be equals. Thats if his full raw power came to bear. Sidious has way more experience and knowledge on the force and how to use it, and how Vader uses it, so by extinction how Galen would use it. So if they fought both at peak health with Galen at full strength he would still lose, because Galen would fall sooner from al the power he would be exerting, which cant be held forever and he is less experienced than his competition.
Its common sense and it was explained by those other examples you showed and i countered. It all depends on the individuals in question. For instance Sidious is an overconfident man, so when he fought Yoda notice how he was laughing his head off, and just exhuberated about how the jedi had fallen, he was overconfident. Galen and Ti, they were o a planet that favored Ti heavily, this is seen by how she is able to use Kinatite, and the list could go on and on, about how its all about context and can't be taken at face value. Until you can give me a logical reason to why Galen, someone weaker than Palpatine could rage him, Im calling that Galen legit rag dolled him through sheer power BS.