Hulk x2 vs Superman (BvsS and Thor(Avengers)

Originally posted by Psychotron
Jesus Christ, are you a high school dropout? If the Leviathan was stopped then it wouldn't be tipping over, there wouldn't be any kinetic energy. This is basic physics, all that happened was the angle was shifted. Hulk didn't stop jack, he just slowed it down. I guess he would have stopped it eventually, but Iron Man beat him to it.

Those are all previous movies where Banner didn't have control over his anger like he did in that scene. Regardless, I never said Hulk doesn't get stronger as he gets angrier, just the opposite, I used the fact that Iron Man matched an ENRAGED Hulk's strength as proof of MCU Hulk's overall mediocrity.

I didn't say anything like that.

He took a laser to the chest. It barely slowed him down. So we can see that these lasers are weak as hell, and Hulk was pinned down by some slightly bigger ones.

And you STILL haven't answered how Hulk deals with Superman's speed, flight, and versatility.

It's seems you're who doesn't understand basic physics. It had already been mostly stopped... it only need to tip all the way over i.e. it was about to be stopped. IM did nothing to stop it's momentum... it had already been almost totally stopped. It was just in the process of flipping over and it would've been stopped. So no, if it was already going to stop when it had flipped over... and Hulk did all the work to get it into that position... how on God's Green Earth can you claim IM stopped. THAT is the point and where you're completely wrong.

The exchanged a punch and their fist collided. How on earth is that him matching his strength? The fight seemed rather obvious that in no way could IM match his strength. Nothing like that was portrayed. His flight, speed, durability kept him in the fight... but in no way was he presented as equals in strength

What the F? What type of ass backwards logic is this? He didn't barely notice it... It put him down and dazed and holding his chest. At which point Thor helped him up while he still had expression of pain on his face. Considering Cap's durability.. I wouldn't call them weak. Hulk took more powerful blasts from like 15 or 20 vehicles and wasn't KO'd or put down. Is there a point you're trying to make here?

Psycho is having another meltdown.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Here's a hint since you seem to be lacking in Hulk facts... every time he reverts back to Banner isn't because he's KO'd. Norton's Hulk for example... he was Brazil escaping from the Army and ended up in central America and woke up not even knowing where he was. So what happened there? Was he KO'd by one of his jumps from Brazil to central America? Hmmmm what could've happened?? Maybe it was, once he was far enough away from Danger.... he simply goes nighty night and wakes up sometimes.

Now post the clip of him being KO'd from the fall or I accept your concession (it should be so easy to do shoes)

Let's see what makes them so different in simple terms so you can follow; In TIH Hulk was the one on the run, ie He was being chased and was looking for a safe place over a relatively prolonged span of time(in which he didn't stop moving, mind you). So it's understandable that once He found that safe place, several countries away, He would calm down.

In the avengers, however, Hulk was so pissed off that he was actively trying to hurt his allies. It goes without saying that his adrenaline must've been off the charts after a fight with Thor, having a jet blow up on his face and the subsequent fall, and you're telling me that he thought the fall supposed to kill him was so unimportant that he calmed down no problem mid air and took a nap?

Or that he landed as Hulk and stayed in the very same spot he crashed into?

With this context given, the onus is on you to prove that he calmed down and reverted. Post a clip or concession accepted.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
In The Incredible Hulk it was stated at least twice that Hulk's powers were triggered by adrenaline. So you're comparing two completely different scenes to try and tell me Hulk took a nap mid-air?

Let's see what makes them so different in simple terms so you can follow; In TIH Hulk was the one on the run, ie He was being chased and was looking for a safe place over a relatively prolonged span of time(in which he didn't stop moving, mind you). So it's understandable that once He found that safe place, several countries away, He would calm down.

In the avengers, however, Hulk was so pissed off that he was actively trying to hurt his allies. It goes without saying that his adrenaline must've been off the charts after a fight with Thor, having a jet blow up on his face and the subsequent fall, and you're telling me that he thought the fall supposed to kill him was so unimportant that he calmed down no problem mid air and took a nap?

Or that he landed as Hulk and stayed in the very same spot he crashed into?

With this context given, the onus is on you to prove that he calmed down and reverted. Post a clip or concession accepted.

He wasn't so pissed off at all. That banner was more in control of his powers. Hence the able to transform and still stop the Leviathan almost instantly after changing. BW was able to calm him down. Even in the Norton version which you're claiming is so different. Betty is able to calm him down when he's on the table. Hell he couldn't killed BW had he wanted but decided to simply shoulder check her. Point is, I wouldn't label him super pissed off at all. He knew they were teammates and he could control himself somewhat accordingly. This is illustrated by him teaming up with them as the Hulk (against an enemy and thus likely more angry and rampaging) and yet he wasn't attacking teammates or civilians. YOU are claiming he was so pumped up and out of control that he wouldn't just calm down.... Thus the ONUS IS ON YOU.

Further YOU claimed he was KO'd by the fall... thus it's on YOU to prove that, not me. I don't need to prove a negative. Granted, being so piss poor at debating you don't understand these concepts, but they are none the less true. You made the claim now post the video or I accept your concession

I see why Adam grimes rarely debates. He stinks.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
In The Incredible Hulk it was stated at least twice that Hulk's powers were triggered by adrenaline. So you're comparing two completely different scenes to try and tell me Hulk took a nap mid-air?

Let's see what makes them so different in simple terms so you can follow; In TIH Hulk was the one on the run, ie He was being chased and was looking for a safe place over a relatively prolonged span of time(in which he didn't stop moving, mind you). So it's understandable that once He found that safe place, several countries away, He would calm down.

In the avengers, however, Hulk was so pissed off that he was actively trying to hurt his allies. It goes without saying that his adrenaline must've been off the charts after a fight with Thor, having a jet blow up on his face and the subsequent fall, and you're telling me that he thought the fall supposed to kill him was so unimportant that he calmed down no problem mid air and took a nap?

Or that he landed as Hulk and stayed in the very same spot he crashed into?

With this context given, the onus is on you to prove that he calmed down and reverted. Post a clip or concession accepted.

You really don't have any proof though. We know Hulk can tank being thrown from Cloud height based off his movie when he was tossed out of a plane (cloud height) as Banner, landed which sent him through the street and was ok afterwards. Tanked it. The janitor guy in Avengers even said he saw a green fella that was acting wild.

Lol, he even tells us Hulk was awake when he fell.

https://youtu.be/sEcDVDYHQfw

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's seems you're who doesn't understand basic physics. It had already been mostly stopped... it only need to tip all the way over i.e. it was about to be stopped. IM did nothing to stop it's momentum... it had already been almost totally stopped. It was just in the process of flipping over and it would've been stopped. So no, if it was already going to stop when it had flipped over... and Hulk did all the work to get it into that position... how on God's Green Earth can you claim IM stopped. THAT is the point and where you're completely wrong.

The exchanged a punch and their fist collided. How on earth is that him matching his strength? The fight seemed rather obvious that in no way could IM match his strength. Nothing like that was portrayed. His flight, speed, durability kept him in the fight... but in no way was he presented as equals in strength

What the F? What type of ass backwards logic is this? He didn't barely notice it... It put him down and dazed and holding his chest. At which point Thor helped him up while he still had expression of pain on his face. Considering Cap's durability.. I wouldn't call them weak. Hulk took more powerful blasts from like 15 or 20 vehicles and wasn't KO'd or put down. Is there a point you're trying to make here?

Oh, God. Are all Thanos fans as retarded as you and Quan? Haven't you seen a big car accident, just because a car flips over doesn't mean it's forward momentum will disappear. The Leviathan was still moving forward when IM blew it up. Go to school, son. I shouldn't even have to point out how pathetic is that Hulk's best strength feat was overshadowed by a single missile from Iron Man.

LOL. A charging angry Hulk and a stationary Iron Man collided and Hulk couldn't even budge Iron Man. Iron Man matched him. He also pinned him down with a flurry of punches, knocked a tooth out, and knocked him out. Hulk was definitely not superior to IM in strength, just durability, which eventually failed him.

Hulk got overwhelmed by generic laser rifles that can't even kill Captain America, Superman's heat vision will fry Hulk in seconds.

And I'm still waiting dor an answer on how Hulk will deal with Superman's speed, flight, and versatility. Stop dodgin, coward.

Originally posted by Psychotron
LOL. A charging angry Hulk and a stationary Iron Man collided and Hulk couldn't even budge Iron Man. Iron Man matched him. He also pinned him down with a flurry of punches, knocked a tooth out, and knocked him out. .

Why are even talking about MCU Hulk? He is the weakest combatant here. Kal-El vs Australian Hulk is where the show is at.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Oh, God. Are all Thanos fans as retarded as you and Quan? Haven't you seen a big car accident, just because a car flips over doesn't mean it's forward momentum will disappear. The Leviathan was still moving forward when IM blew it up. Go to school, son. I shouldn't even have to point out how pathetic is that Hulk's best strength feat was overshadowed by a single missile from Iron Man.

LOL. A charging angry Hulk and a stationary Iron Man collided and Hulk couldn't even budge Iron Man. Iron Man matched him. He also pinned him down with a flurry of punches, knocked a tooth out, and knocked him out. Hulk was definitely not superior to IM in strength, just durability, which eventually failed him.

Hulk got overwhelmed by generic laser rifles that can't even kill Captain America, Superman's heat vision will fry Hulk in seconds.

And I'm still waiting dor an answer on how Hulk will deal with Superman's speed, flight, and versatility. Stop dodgin, coward.

You're a buffoon through and through. I was flipping over and going to stop. It still wasn't moving at a high rate of speed to continue after it flipped over you buffoon. You can see it's almost totally stopped and just flipping over and it would've come to rest. Watch the damn scene so I don't have to continually hold your hand through them.

Moron, the MOST you could say is he matched his STRIKING power in that one instance. Nothing more, nothing less. I swear do you even know the difference between striking power and strength? Jesus, get a clue. He didn't match him in strength at all. The only reason he was able to even last was because of the upgraded armor... strength... flight and speed of the suit. Not because he matched him in strength. I love how you cite him pummeling his face.. when Hulk PHYSICALLY reversed the position, while at a disadvantage leverage wise. He still reversed it... THAT is a strength showing, and a legit one. So a building falling on him and hulk (possibly losing a tooth) is again somehow show IM matching him in strength? Jesus you're bad at this.

Moron, cap took ONE shot from a likely inferior and less powerful gun... and he was on the ground hurt and stunned. Hulk took shot after shot from 20 dudes with a more powerful gun and wasn't KO'd or put down. How on earth you can take that scene and extrapolate that:

"Hulk got overwhelmed by generic laser rifles that can't even kill Captain America"

This above statement of yours exemplifies how you're simply out of your league here. You don't even understand basic concepts, let alone more intricate ones.

I've answered... he can and WILL deal with Superman and his speed. Let's examine:

Abom (Who's Hulk inferior) caught a Rocket. He didn't just catch it, he had his back turned when it was fired and in the air... turned around fast enough to catch it mid-air. Now we know Hulk can do the same because, well, they are both enhanced by Gamma Radiation. That is what it does... it increases a great number of things... including speed and reaction. Being that Hulk beat Abom... and was having no issue reacting to him... nor was Abom moving faster than Hulk and dodging all his punches. Thus Hulk can react that fast or faster.

The ejection of the fighter Jet Pilot... He grabs him AFTER he had already hit the ejection button and was ejecting. He caught him mid air. You probably don't know, but the eject rather quickly, Neme posted the figures I believe. It took incredible reactions to get it done.

How about Hulk catching Mjolnir mid throw. We all know how fast Thor can zip his hammer around. Hulk caught the throw, which would take incredible reaction speed i.e. catching a speeding object coming at you... Hmmmmm

Now let's envision how Superman fights... He bullrushed Zod in their first encounter... He bullrushed Faora (who promptly dealt with it easily the first time) he tried to bulrush Namek. He bulrushes Zod later in the film... he does so to Doomsday... See a theme here? Hulk will be able to react and when he grabs him... he will get the puny God treatment. We've seen being slammed to the ground can temp KO superman... now imagine getting punk God'd... he gets KO.. and easily.

Again, this is not just superman vs 2 hulks.

This is Superman and Thor vs Two Hulks.

You are doing your best to avoid that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're a buffoon through and through. I was flipping over and going to stop. It still wasn't moving at a high rate of speed to continue after it flipped over you buffoon. You can see it's almost totally stopped and just flipping over and it would've come to rest. Watch the damn scene so I don't have to continually hold your hand through them.

Moron, the MOST you could say is he matched his STRIKING power in that one instance. Nothing more, nothing less. I swear do you even know the difference between striking power and strength? Jesus, get a clue. He didn't match him in strength at all. The only reason he was able to even last was because of the upgraded armor... strength... flight and speed of the suit. Not because he matched him in strength. I love how you cite him pummeling his face.. when Hulk PHYSICALLY reversed the position, while at a disadvantage leverage wise. He still reversed it... THAT is a strength showing, and a legit one. So a building falling on him and hulk (possibly losing a tooth) is again somehow show IM matching him in strength? Jesus you're bad at this.

Moron, cap took ONE shot from a likely inferior and less powerful gun... and he was on the ground hurt and stunned. Hulk took shot after shot from 20 dudes with a more powerful gun and wasn't KO'd or put down. How on earth you can take that scene and extrapolate that:

"Hulk got overwhelmed by generic laser rifles that can't even kill Captain America"

This above statement of yours exemplifies how you're simply out of your league here. You don't even understand basic concepts, let alone more intricate ones.

I've answered... he can and WILL deal with Superman and his speed. Let's examine:

Abom (Who's Hulk inferior) caught a Rocket. He didn't just catch it, he had his back turned when it was fired and in the air... turned around fast enough to catch it mid-air. Now we know Hulk can do the same because, well, they are both enhanced by Gamma Radiation. That is what it does... it increases a great number of things... including speed and reaction. Being that Hulk beat Abom... and was having no issue reacting to him... nor was Abom moving faster than Hulk and dodging all his punches. Thus Hulk can react that fast or faster.

The ejection of the fighter Jet Pilot... He grabs him AFTER he had already hit the ejection button and was ejecting. He caught him mid air. You probably don't know, but the eject rather quickly, Neme posted the figures I believe. It took incredible reactions to get it done.

How about Hulk catching Mjolnir mid throw. We all know how fast Thor can zip his hammer around. Hulk caught the throw, which would take incredible reaction speed i.e. catching a speeding object coming at you... Hmmmmm

Now let's envision how Superman fights... He bullrushed Zod in their first encounter... He bullrushed Faora (who promptly dealt with it easily the first time) he tried to bulrush Namek. He bulrushes Zod later in the film... he does so to Doomsday... See a theme here? Hulk will be able to react and when he grabs him... he will get the puny God treatment. We've seen being slammed to the ground can temp KO superman... now imagine getting punk God'd... he gets KO.. and easily.

You must be a child or a woman, there's no other explanation for your inability to understand basic science. If it was in the process of flipping over then it STILL HAD FORWARD MOMENTUM. How do you fail to understand this?

HAHAHAHAHA, oh wow. Hulk was pissed as hell, and he was charging him which gave him extra kinetic energy and he still COULD NOT OVERPOWER Iron Man. Striking power is basically all about kinetic energy (speed + mass), and Hulk had it on his side since he was moving forward, while Iron Man was not, yet he failed to even budge him. And no, the Hulk did not reverse Iron Man, he caught his punch, and Iron Man sucked his arm up with the suit and took him for a ride. I have no idea how you got that so wrong.

Lol, Superman tanked the World Engine, which was crushing skyscrapers and Hulk couldn't deal with some generic laser rifles. Rifles which were likely inferior to firearms since they couldn't even kill Captain America. That's pretty pathetic.

So Abomb catching a rocket, Hulk catching an ejection seat and Mjolnir somehow means he can contend with a guy who can traverse the planet in seconds? That's just silly. Hulk couldn't even catch Blonsky, never mind a guy who can fight with Faora and Nam-Ek at the same time. Btw, Abomb was superior to Hulk until the very end of the movie when Betty was in danger.

Superman bullrushed the Kryptonians, but guess what? They all have speed equal to his, that's why the can respond to him. Hulk is slower than your grandmother, and will get smashed in seconds. And that doesn't even factor in BFR which Hulk has no defense against.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He wasn't so pissed off at all. That banner was more in control of his powers. Hence the able to transform and still stop the Leviathan almost instantly after changing. BW was able to calm him down. Even in the Norton version which you're claiming is so different. Betty is able to calm him down when he's on the table. Hell he couldn't killed BW had he wanted but decided to simply shoulder check her. Point is, I wouldn't label him super pissed off at all. He knew they were teammates and he could control himself somewhat accordingly. This is illustrated by him teaming up with them as the Hulk (against an enemy and thus likely more angry and rampaging) and yet he wasn't attacking teammates or civilians. YOU are claiming he was so pumped up and out of control that he wouldn't just calm down.... Thus the ONUS IS ON YOU.

Further YOU claimed he was KO'd by the fall... thus it's on YOU to prove that, not me. I don't need to prove a negative. Granted, being so piss poor at debating you don't understand these concepts, but they are none the less true. You made the claim now post the video or I accept your concession

I have already explained to you why he was koed, why don't you post the clip of Hulk calming mid air?

You're bottom of the barrel, quan material at best.

Originally posted by carver9
You really don't have any proof though. We know Hulk can tank being thrown from Cloud height based off his movie when he was tossed out of a plane (cloud height) as Banner, landed which sent him through the street and was ok afterwards. Tanked it. The janitor guy in Avengers even said he saw a green fella that was acting wild.

Lol, he even tells us Hulk was awake when he fell.

https://youtu.be/sEcDVDYHQfw

As for the avengers, the cleaning guy only said he was awake when he fell and giant, green and nude, letting Banner now that he saw him as Hulk. Unless you think Hulk crashed, took a walk around the building and then came back at the very same spot he crashed into to take a nap? Lol

Originally posted by Psychotron
You must be a child or a woman, there's no other explanation for your inability to understand basic science. If it was in the process of flipping over then it STILL HAD FORWARD MOMENTUM. How do you fail to understand this?

HAHAHAHAHA, oh wow. Hulk was pissed as hell, and he was charging him which gave him extra kinetic energy and he still COULD NOT OVERPOWER Iron Man. Striking power is basically all about kinetic energy (speed + mass), and Hulk had it on his side since he was moving forward, while Iron Man was not, yet he failed to even budge him. And no, the Hulk did not reverse Iron Man, he caught his punch, and Iron Man sucked his arm up with the suit and took him for a ride. I have no idea how you got that so wrong.

Lol, Superman tanked the World Engine, which was crushing skyscrapers and Hulk couldn't deal with some generic laser rifles. Rifles which were likely inferior to firearms since they couldn't even kill Captain America. That's pretty pathetic.

So Abomb catching a rocket, Hulk catching an ejection seat and Mjolnir somehow means he can contend with a guy who can traverse the planet in seconds? That's just silly. Hulk couldn't even catch Blonsky, never mind a guy who can fight with Faora and Nam-Ek at the same time. Btw, Abomb was superior to Hulk until the very end of the movie when Betty was in danger.

Superman bullrushed the Kryptonians, but guess what? They all have speed equal to his, that's why the can respond to him. Hulk is slower than your grandmother, and will get smashed in seconds. And that doesn't even factor in BFR which Hulk has no defense against.

Holy shit, I had no idea I was talking to such a buffoon. This is painful to watch actually. YOU already contradicted and proved your own argument wrong. You admitted it was almost totally stopped and going to come to a halt. What does that mean you buffoon? It means Hulk had already done the work to stop it. You admitted such. Thus how could IM stop something you already admitted was already mostly stopped and going to stop?

So you don't know the difference between striking power and strength? Good to know, so I don't bring this subjects up to you.

Traverse the world in seconds.. post the feat then. You do realize how easily I can destroy that argument. Remember when Superman saved Lois from crashing in the ejected pod... Notice where he was? Notice how long it took him to fly to his mothers? Hmmmm, odd it took so long for somebody that can go around the world in seconds eh? Jesus.

Incorrect, regular people could perceive the kryptonians and their fights. This gives us an idea how fast they were moving. As others have admitted Faora doesn't move faster in h2h than a Rocket fired. Guess what, that was already easily caught while having your back turned. He'll have no issue grabbing superman.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You're telling me Banner was in control of himself during the helicarrier incident? You surely have a comprehension problem.

I have already explained to you why he was koed, why don't you post the clip of Hulk calming mid air?

You're bottom of the barrel, quan material at best.

No moron, I'm saying he wasn't totally raging and out of control as you claimed. You claimed he was such, and thus why you don't believe he was calmed down so easily upon impact. I'm disputing said notion. He could've killed BW and didn't. He could've killed the pilot, he didn't. For further proof, later on when he's more pissed off, he's still not attacking his teammates. Clearly he has some level of control, not total obviously, but some.

So you have no idea how debating works then? The onus is on you to prove your claim. You've been unable to do so. I accept your concession as usual when we get into a discussion.

However, just for the fun of it.... You still didn't address the Norton hulk situations. How does it end up flat on his back in nearly the same position every time... barely remembering what happened? Why is that a consistent theme that has nothing to do with him being KO'd. This was the same in all the movies or the damn TV show for God's sake. He just ends up that way. Unless you believe one of his escaping jumps KO's him LOL. No what is likely to have happened. Just like in the next avengers. He falls through a building and it collapses on him. He initial just kind of sits there.. shakes the dust off and proceeds to want to get up to continue the fight. However, imagine no fight left to continue.... he likely just fell... stayed there to see if anybody was coming or following.. Being that there wasn't and no danger he just reverted back. Simple. A common theme.

Doesn't matter, the point is, I've now accepted your concession that you can't prove your claim.

I haven't addressed it? I just explained to you why they were two completely different situations.

I know how debating works, but considering how everything in the movie goes against your bad script of the events it's on you to prove your claim with 'a clip', as you made that statement way earlier.

Quit being so emotional.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Holy shit, I had no idea I was talking to such a buffoon. This is painful to watch actually. YOU already contradicted and proved your own argument wrong. You admitted it was almost totally stopped and going to come to a halt. What does that mean you buffoon? It means Hulk had already done the work to stop it. You admitted such. Thus how could IM stop something you already admitted was already mostly stopped and going to stop?

So you don't know the difference between striking power and strength? Good to know, so I don't bring this subjects up to you.

Traverse the world in seconds.. post the feat then. You do realize how easily I can destroy that argument. Remember when Superman saved Lois from crashing in the ejected pod... Notice where he was? Notice how long it took him to fly to his mothers? Hmmmm, odd it took so long for somebody that can go around the world in seconds eh? Jesus.

Incorrect, regular people could perceive the kryptonians and their fights. This gives us an idea how fast they were moving. As others have admitted Faora doesn't move faster in h2h than a Rocket fired. Guess what, that was already easily caught while having your back turned. He'll have no issue grabbing superman.

So you're not only ignorant about physics, you can't read either. That's good to know. I said the Leviathan still had forward momentum when it was tipped over, that means it was still moving forward, and it would have continued moving foward after it flipped over for a few hundred feat at least.

Lmao I don't know the difference? You're trying to refute something that plainly happened on screen. Prove me wrong, ladyboy.

Kek. He went from The arctic to Metropolis in seconds when Lex pushed Lois off the building. I can't wait to see how you're gonna lowball this.

You're such a moron. You're basically attributing an Abom feat to Hulk, a Hulk that was inferior to Abomination until the end of the fight. Hulk is much slower than Faora or Superman, this is a fact, to say that he will easily catch Superman when he can't even catch Thor is laughable. Then again, if there was only one word that can be used to describe you, laughable would be it.

And how will Hulk deal with Superman's ranged attacks or BFR?

Spoiler:
He can't.

Holy shit you're bad at this... I mean awful. Look at this video and actually comprehend it you dimwit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amVfFRNmDE4

Now notice :54 - :55 ... What do you notice there dunce. Hulk is literally almost totally stopped. If it was still going to travel a few more hundred feet... why didn't it continue to push Hulk forward? Why did it suddenly stop, and said sudden stop, caused the tail to rise up and flip over. What you'll notice in this time frame... The Leviathan is almost totally stopped.. It will just flip over and come to rest practically in the same spot. I was in no way going to be traveling a few hundred more feet. To even suggest that tells me how moronic you are. Further, even if it was going to travel that much further (which it clearly wasn't) Hulk would've still been the one stopping it. He still was the one who did all the work to get it into a position where it would stop. IM did nothing to stop it.

YOU DIDN"T PROVE YOUR CASE YOU MORON. You said IM matched him in strength and cited a STRIKING exchange. See how this works, you made a claim and then provided crap for evidence to back it up. Yes, I see how dumb you are

Don't need to, you didn't answer my question. After he saved Lois from the falling ejected pod.. why did it take him so long to get to his mother to save here? He was practically almost there already? Odd, very odd for someone who can travel the world in second eh? Explain that.

No you buffoon, Abom wasn't perceiving and reacting to Hulk so that he couldn't touch him. If he was doing that, then you could argue Abom's perception and reaction weren't superior and I couldn't make that comparison. However, Hulk was reacting just fine to Abom and was landing blows on him just fine.. proving that Abom's reactions and perceptions weren't above Hulks. What further proves it, is that Hulk actually won the damn fight. Further proving his superiority to Abom.

Don't think I didn't notice how your speed argument got crushed and now we're moving on to ranged attacks and BFR lol. Superman wont' try ranged attacks right away.. he'll do his bulrush thing and get puny god'd. That is how it would play out.

This is not a good fight for the Hulks. In movie vs. Do we assume the characters act the same as in movie during team battles or willl they only attack opposing team? Because I actually see the Hulks fighting each other as much as team 2. While I could actually see MCU Thor and DCEU Supes teaming up quite naturally due to both being mass murderers.

Superman starts off as weak link due to holding back initially and not. Prepared for Hulks initial onslaught. But yeah, Supes is every bit as strong and simply has to much to lose a fair fight to a current MCU Hulk imo. Ragnarok is coming and were hopefully gonna get a proper Hulk and...

No one has brought up Thor much even though he is mvp for this fight as he knows the kid gloves have to come off immediately and put the Hulks down quickly. Yeah, I consider Supes the most powerul in overall stats than Thor. Most definitely stronger, definitely faster in some areas, but really not by much, calling durability a wash as though Thor has the better feat in Sokovia vs. Nuke, Supes is definitely better at taking a punch, and Thor has obviously better energy attacks and striking feats.

The Hulks Regen and dynamic strength are either poorly portrayed or nerfed to hell so far, otherwise they could definitely take some wins if they were allowed to get amped enough. But aside from Doomsday or Infinity Gem wielder I don't see many singles or duos taking a Thor and Supes combo. Especially if Thor gets a chance to teach Supes how to fight. At least put him in a kids karate class or something.