Ahsoka Tano, Old Master Maul & Ben Kenobi run a gauntlet

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Ahsoka Tano, Old Master Maul & Ben Kenobi run a gauntlet

The part-timers team up, how far do they get?

Round 1: Grand Inquisitor, 5th Brother, 7th Sister & 8th Brother
Round 2: Count Dooku, Asajj Ventress & Savage Opress
Round 3: Darth Wyyrlok, Darth Nihl and Darth Talon
Round 4: KOTOR Revan, Satele Shan & Bastila Shan
Round 5: Jaina Solo, Kyp Durron & Corran Horn

Boss Round: Master Yoda & Mace Windu

1st Run: Lightsabers Only / 2nd Run: All-Out

Battle takes place at the apex of the Malachor Sith Temple.

Done at 2.

#2 should be above 3, 4 and 5.

And they're done here.

5 or boss

Dooku has a clear force advantage over Ahsoka, assuming she didn't go for Ventress in which case Id favor Ahsoka slightly. Maul can keep Dooku busy, but Ben really is a poor choice against Savage and would probably be quickly work down or ragdolled. It could go either way but Probabky down at 2

How much rest?

With full rest and recovery, they may fall at 2, 5, or boss.

For #2 Dooku is the MVP. He can logically fend off any two opponents on team OT for far longer than any member of said team can fend off Savage and Ventress.

That gives Team Dooku way more flexibility in terms of combat. + Dooku's TK is powerful enough to knock anyone off the Temple Apex for long enough to dismantle the two remaining with his apprentices.

Honestly Maul, Dooku, or Vader are more than capable of ragdolling Ahsoka. She is close to them in skill but nowhere near any off them in raw power or force feats

Originally posted by carthage
Honestly Maul, Dooku, or Vader are more than capable of ragdolling Ahsoka. She is close to them in skill but nowhere near any off them in raw power or force feats

Perhaps. But by the same conclusion Maul should be capable of ragdolling Ventress or Savage.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
For #2 Dooku is the MVP. He can logically fend off any two opponents on team OT for far longer than any member of said team can fend off Savage and Ventress.

That gives Team Dooku way more flexibility in terms of combat. + Dooku's TK is powerful enough to knock anyone off the Temple Apex for long enough to dismantle the two remaining with his apprentices.

Could he? I'm not certain. Anyway, this is under the assumption that he engages two opponents at once wheras I think the more likely result will be a series of 3 1v1. And we've already seen how fast Maul can take out Savage. If he battles Savage or Ventress, I don't see either lasting long at all.

And I still think Dooku v Maul is far more competitive then you believe.

Edit: This is under the assumption that we are not including EU feats. With those, it's an entirely different ball game.

Ahsoka's only feats she has in her prime are in, what, two episodes of Rebels? Just because she doesn't have feats that are heavily destructive like those that are performed by Maul, Dooku and Vader doesn't mean that we should conclude she would get ragdolled by them. That's retarded. The only people we see her fight in her prime are the Inquisitors, who she's displayed clear Force edges over, Maul, who failed to ragdoll Ahsoka like he's done to Kenobi in a minute and forty second fight (pretty sure he had a damn good reason to try and kill Ahsoka ASAP), and Vader, who Ahsoka competed with on legitimate terms and brought her own telekinesis to bare. She isn't going to be ragdolled by Maul, Dooku or Vader. It's just another example of people favoring characters that have had the opportunity to display more feats over those who have not.

That a character doesn't attempt to ragdoll another does not indicate that they could not. Just look at Vader vs Commander Karbin. Clearly, Vader would be capable of ragdolling him but he does not. Now, could they do so against Ahsoka? I don't know. However, as of now, Ahsoka does not have the feats to definitively state that she could defend against them.

And yes, character with more feats and statements tend to have an advantage over those with fewer. It has nothing to do with "favoring characters" but rather to do with how debating works.

Originally posted by ares834
Could he? I'm not certain. Anyway, this is under the assumption that he engages two opponents at once wheras I think the more likely result will be a series of 3 1v1. And we've already seen how fast Maul can take out Savage. If he battles Savage or Ventress, I don't see either lasting long at all.

No combination of these two individuals are superior to ROTS Kenobi and Skywalker. And the only reason Maul won so quickly against Savage was his use of his feet. He's not that far above Savage at all really.


And I still think Dooku v Maul is far more competitive then you believe.

That's nice but Dooku has vastly superior showings against Kenobi, way better showings against Yoda than Maul has against Sidious, and where as Dooku has fended off Kenobi and Skywalker Maul has failed to defeat Kenobi even with backup. You'd be hardpressed to successfully argue a scenario where Maul can defeat Dooku 1 vs. 1 unless Maul catches him off guard.

Dooku doesn't need his Legends feats to show himself superior to Maul. In the canon he has:
-Lightning capable of killing Ventress-level opponents- Maul couldn't even kill Seventh Sister with his force powers.
-The ability for lightning storm multiple night brothers
-TK to push back Skywalker and Kenobi even with erected barriers
-Speed to dodge Skywalker and Kenobi's combined TK
-The ability to wreck Kenobi while still fending off Skywalker
-Not getting instantly wrecked by Yoda.

Ahsoka's only feats she has in her prime are in, what, two episodes of Rebels? Just because she doesn't have feats that are heavily destructive like those that are performed by Maul, Dooku and Vader doesn't mean that we should conclude she would get ragdolled by them. That's retarded. The only people we see her fight in her prime are the Inquisitors, who she's displayed clear Force edges over, Maul, who failed to ragdoll Ahsoka like he's done to Kenobi in a minute and forty second fight (pretty sure he had a damn good reason to try and kill Ahsoka ASAP), and Vader, who Ahsoka competed with on legitimate terms and brought her own telekinesis to bare. She isn't going to be ragdolled by Maul, Dooku or Vader. It's just another example of people favoring characters that have had the opportunity to display more feats over those who have not.

Maul has only ragdolled Kenobi under extenuating circumstances. i.e. When he's exerted a ton of energy whooping Maul and his apprentices' ass simultaneously or when Kenobi's already injured. There's nothing to suggest he can do that with impunity. I doubt Maul could ragdoll Ahsoka with impunity. That being said I do thing Dooku and especially Vader could.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
No combination of these two individuals are superior to ROTS Kenobi and Skywalker. And the only reason Maul won so quickly against Savage was his use of his feet. He's not that far above Savage at all really.

That seems a stretch.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
That's nice but Dooku has vastly superior showings against Kenobi, way better showings against Yoda than Maul has against Sidious, and where as Dooku has fended off Kenobi and Skywalker Maul has failed to defeat Kenobi even with backup. You'd be hardpressed to successfully argue a scenario where Maul can defeat Dooku 1 vs. 1 unless Maul catches him off guard.

Well, first of all, I never said Maul would win. I believe Dooku would win albeit in a fairly close match. And secondly, I would point out that Sidious is a far more overwhelming and dominating opponent than Yoda. So those showings do not, I feel, act as a great barometer of their power relative to one another.

Originally posted by ares834
That a character doesn't attempt to ragdoll another does not indicate that they could not. Just look at Vader vs Commander Karbin. Clearly, Vader would be capable of ragdolling him but he does not. Now, could they do so against Ahsoka? I don't know. However, as of now, Ahsoka does not have the feats to definitively state that she could defend against them.

And yes, character with more feats and statements tend to have an advantage over those with fewer. It has nothing to do with "favoring characters" but rather to do with how debating works.

Look at every fight Ahsoka has had in her prime then tell me with a straight face Maul, Dooku and Vader could all completely render her helpless with the Force. You're being ridiculous. Ahsoka is stated to be very powerful in the Force during Rebels and "when it comes to the Force, Ahsoka stands with the best" as per Rebels Recon. But nah, she's so far below the best she'd get ragdolled, for sure. 🙄

No shit characters with more feats have an advantage. But going so far as to say they'd ragdoll a character that has extremely impressive Force feats themselves, statements saying that they're very powerful, and statements straight up saying that they stand with the best, is just being stupid.

BREAKING NEWS: Ventress can ragdoll Ahsoka, because why not?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Look at every fight Ahsoka has had in her prime then tell me with a straight face Maul, Dooku and Vader could all completely render her helpless with the Force. You're being ridiculous. Ahsoka is stated to be very powerful in the Force during Rebels and "when it comes to the Force, Ahsoka stands with the best" as per Rebels Recon. But nah, she's so far below the best she'd get ragdolled, for sure. 🙄

No shit characters with more feats have an advantage. But going so far as to say they'd ragdoll a character that has extremely impressive Force feats themselves, statements saying that they're very powerful, and statements straight up saying that they stand with the best, is just being stupid.

As I said, I don't know. But as of now, she doesn't have any that indicate that she could defend against characters who can do such things to Obi-Wan or characters who are smashing armies.

And being stated that she "stands with the best" means what exactly? In the EU, guys like Agen Kolar and Kit Fisto were stated to not only be some of the best swordsmen but some of the best of all time. That doesn't stop us from arguing that they would be stomped by Dooku in a sword fight. For what it's worth, I'd also say that Kenobi "stands with the best" when it comes to force power. I mean he is likely in the top 0.1% of the Jedi Order. Still doesn't protect him from Dooku's TK...

Originally posted by |King Joker|
[b]BREAKING NEWS: Ventress can ragdoll Ahsoka, because why not? [/B]

👆 Yeah, she was in like several TCW episodes whereas Ahsoka only fought in two Rebels episodes. How can Ahsoka possibly be better than someone with that exposure?

The same way having little exposure means you could possibly be amazing, so we should just assume you are.

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