Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Just out of curiosity, even though I used the word "then" instead of "than" you..understood what I was saying right? It didn't create any kind of language barrier that left you wondering what I was trying to say?
Thor is not durable at all.
But why then is it wanking Thanos to say he's more durable then Thor if Thor isn't durable at all?
Originally posted by Surtur
Thanos is more durable then Thor so why would you assume what hurts Thor would automatically hurt him?Heck in another thread someone said Thor needed special protection just to fight a dude inside the sun.
Well, they are a liar unless it was a specific issue. He has fought on Sun a few times with no armor. Most recently in Godbutcher #9.
Just tossing in my two cents:
H2H I think Apocalypse has the advantage because he has more physical abilities than Thanos and could likely just grow gigantic and kick Thanos around.
All powers at play the edge clearly goes to Thanos based on feats, but that's also assuming that he's powerful enough to get through Celestial Armor. I don't know if Apocalypse has the blasting power to take Thanos out (primarily because Nur operates in the realm of the X-Men where he himself is the biggest fish), but he was also able to go toe to toe with, and best, High Evolutionary in the The Evolutionary War arc where HE was written as very powerful but just under someone like Galactus, and that was High Evolutionary after he'd gone mad when the Beyonders stole Counter Earth and had Hulk kill him so he could resurrect and repair his brain damage. This version of High Evolutionary was so powerful that in that same arc the Avengers had to hyper evolve Hercules using HE's tech to a level of godhood where he'd be HE's equal, and Apocalypse was more powerful than, or at the very least equal to, that version of HE. That might not be enough to make a case for Apocalypse beating Thanos given Thanos's history, but Apocalypse is not a slouch when he's at full power. Most times he's 'lost' it's because of some kind of plot device regarding him not being fully rejuvenated/being awakened from his hibernation or it's simply his plans being foiled (like in The Twelve or Blood of Apocalypse). 616 Apocalypse is batting at least .900 in head up fights when at full power, he's just written to let his henchmen do most of the dirty work.
Originally posted by MF DELPHThanos physically beats the shit out of Apocalypse.
Just tossing in my two cents:H2H I think Apocalypse has the advantage because he has more physical abilities than Thanos and could likely just grow gigantic and kick Thanos around.
All powers at play the edge clearly goes to Thanos based on feats, but that's also assuming that he's powerful enough to get through Celestial Armor. I don't know if Apocalypse has the blasting power to take Thanos out (primarily because Nur operates in the realm of the X-Men where he himself is the biggest fish), but he was also able to go toe to toe with, and best, High Evolutionary in the The Evolutionary War arc where HE was written as very powerful but just under someone like Galactus, and that was High Evolutionary after he'd gone mad when the Beyonders stole Counter Earth and had Hulk kill him so he could resurrect and repair his brain damage. This version of High Evolutionary was so powerful that in that same arc the Avengers had to hyper evolve Hercules using HE's tech to a level of godhood where he'd be HE's equal, and Apocalypse was more powerful than, or at the very least equal to, that version of HE. That might not be enough to make a case for Apocalypse beating Thanos given Thanos's history, but Apocalypse is not a slouch when he's at full power. Most times he's 'lost' it's because of some kind of plot device regarding him not being fully rejuvenated/being awakened from his hibernation or it's simply his plans being foiled (like in The Twelve or Blood of Apocalypse). 616 Apocalypse is batting at least .900 in head up fights when at full power, he's just written to let his henchmen do most of the dirty work.
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Just tossing in my two cents:H2H I think Apocalypse has the advantage because he has more physical abilities than Thanos and could likely just grow gigantic and kick Thanos around.
All powers at play the edge clearly goes to Thanos based on feats, but that's also assuming that he's powerful enough to get through Celestial Armor. I don't know if Apocalypse has the blasting power to take Thanos out (primarily because Nur operates in the realm of the X-Men where he himself is the biggest fish), but he was also able to go toe to toe with, and best, High Evolutionary in the The Evolutionary War arc where HE was written as very powerful but just under someone like Galactus, and that was High Evolutionary after he'd gone mad when the Beyonders stole Counter Earth and had Hulk kill him so he could resurrect and repair his brain damage. This version of High Evolutionary was so powerful that in that same arc the Avengers had to hyper evolve Hercules using HE's tech to a level of godhood where he'd be HE's equal, and Apocalypse was more powerful than, or at the very least equal to, that version of HE. That might not be enough to make a case for Apocalypse beating Thanos given Thanos's history, but Apocalypse is not a slouch when he's at full power. Most times he's 'lost' it's because of some kind of plot device regarding him not being fully rejuvenated/being awakened from his hibernation or it's simply his plans being foiled (like in The Twelve or Blood of Apocalypse). 616 Apocalypse is batting at least .900 in head up fights when at full power, he's just written to let his henchmen do most of the dirty work.
Nice synopsis. Is his celestial armor standard equip now?
That depends on how physically powerful you consider Thanos, not overall powerful. Overall, all powers at play, sure, Thanos is clearly depicted as in another class as he's a universal threat obtaining artifacts that grant godhood whereas Apocalypse is primarily focused on curating evolution on Earth. When it comes to just fist fights, though, he's not so clearly superior unless you only take into consideration Thanos piecing up Silver Surfer as a point of reference and don't consider Apocalypse casually sonning people like Living Monolith, Ikaris, or God Butcher Arc Prince Thor.
Originally posted by MF DELPHThanos held his own for a period of time with Thor drawing from the power gem. He was strong enough to match Tyrants strength. He casually destroys the likes of BRB and Ronan as if they are fleas. He recently was shown to be physically superior to Annihilus who was amped by Hulks power and drawing from the cosmic control rod. In terms of physical power Ikaris and Moniloth are low grade.
That depends on how physically powerful you consider Thanos, not overall powerful. Overall, all powers at play, sure, Thanos is clearly depicted as in another class as he's a universal threat obtaining artifacts that grant godhood whereas Apocalypse is primarily focused on curating evolution on Earth. When it comes to just fist fights, though, he's not so clearly superior unless you only take into consideration Thanos piecing up Silver Surfer as a point of reference and don't consider Apocalypse casually sonning people like Living Monolith, Ikaris, or God Butcher Arc Prince Thor.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Nice synopsis. Is his celestial armor standard equip now?
Apparently it always has been. The contemporary stories with Apocalypse have retconned it's origin so that the armor was bestowed as a gift from the Celestials to Apocalypse when they dubbed him the Evolutionary Caretaker of Earth and basically he became their herald/agent. Originally the armor was gained via Apocalypse being infected with the Transmode virus by Cable and interfacing with Ship, then incorporating Celestial technology into his body. That retcon appears to be retroactive as it was shown to be Celestial Armor going back as far as the 12th Century where he encountered Prince Thor as a tie in to the Age of Ultron, God Butcher, and Apocalypse Twins arcs.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos held his own for a period of time with Thor drawing from the power gem. He was strong enough to match Tyrants strength. He casually destroys the likes of BRB and Ronan as if they are fleas. He recently was shown to be physically superior to Annihilus who was amped by Hulks power and drawing from the cosmic control rod. In terms of physical power Ikaris and Moniloth are low grade.
A soft clone of Apocalypse two pieced Kluh.
Yeah, Thanos clearly has the better resume. As a fan of Apocalypse I really hope he graduates to being a regular Avengers villain versus being stuck in the X-Men's Rogues Gallery. Given the situation with FOX and Marvel over the X-Men properties, though, it's highly unlikely to happen. I think a comic where Thanos and Apocalypse meet would be dope. Thanos has operated on Earth in the past and has a half Inhuman child. You'd think their paths would have crossed at some point. Maybe that can be a story in itself.