Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
If Odin couldn't put down Thanos, Apocalypse sure ain't doing it.
Odin probably could have put down Thanos. Except from the looks of the fight when he gives Thanos the chance to yield he wasn't going full blast on him. I'm sure if Odin wasn't going into that battle with the same mindset and rather wasn't giving him a chance to yield he would have put Thanos down.
Originally posted by One_Angry_ScotOdin was trying to put Thanos down, he calls Thanos a villian and believes Thanos has his son captive. It's the sole reason he used the Gungnir, it channels energy better therefore decreasing surrounding destruction.
Odin probably could have put down Thanos. Except from the looks of the fight when he gives Thanos the chance to yield he wasn't going full blast on him. I'm sure if Odin wasn't going into that battle with the same mindset and rather wasn't giving him a chance to yield he would have put Thanos down.
Originally posted by Surturso you don't think he was trying to put Thanos down at all and was playing. Don't talk stupid. He wanted Thanos beat to get Thor back. Hence him one shotting Surfer.
If Odin was trying his hardest to put Thanos down the surroundings would of been obliterated. Thanos most definitely would have no chance against an Odin who isn't holding back and doesn't care about collateral damage.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
so you don't think he was trying to put Thanos down at all and was playing. Don't talk stupid. He wanted Thanos beat to get Thor back. Hence him one shotting Surfer.
I think it would be talking stupid to assume a guy who can destroy galaxies as a side effect of his fights was going all out without causing massive collateral damage.
Notice I never said he didn't try, I said he didn't try his hardest. In other words he did not go all out.
The only way you could think he was trying his hardest would be if you just decide to dismiss the galaxy destroying feats Odin has.
Originally posted by Surturthe galaxy feat happened once and it was a shared feat. Characters rarely go "all out" in the vast majority of their fights.
I think it would be talking stupid to assume a guy who can destroy galaxies as a side effect of his fights was going all out without causing massive collateral damage.Notice I never said he didn't try, I said he didn't try his hardest. In other words he did not go all out.
The only way you could think he was trying his hardest would be if you just decide to dismiss the galaxy destroying feats Odin has.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
the galaxy feat happened once and it was a shared feat. Characters rarely go "all out" in the vast majority of their fights.
That was a pretty high end Thanos that went up against Odin. Good feat for Thanos and not at all surprising considering his history.
And Odin not taking out the rest of Asgard is not proof that he was not going all out. Thanos was written high in that arc. Clearly not Odin level since he still was getting his @$$ whooped, but high nonetheless.
Originally posted by MF DELPHThanos punched a hole in his equal clone when he went all out. Mind you neither were at full power, but each one was above Thor at least
A soft clone of Apocalypse two pieced Kluh.
Either way though, he's only went all out 2 times, and 3 if you count his powering up to it in Infinity. Which leaves room for him to demolish Apoc.
Not saying Odin went all out against Thanos btw. It was a good showing for Thanos.
Thanos of late has been very impressive. Beat a massively amped Annihilus who is on average a trans character. Physically ripped out Ego's Galactus engine as well as beating physical manifestation of said opponent. Beat revengers who had a cosmic cube. Laughed off the Avengers' during Infinity. Etc. Etc.
Originally posted by MF DELPHThe issue is that Apocalypse has never taken a hit capable of punching through Thanos.
Countering that would mean debating whether Thanos is more durable than Celestial Armor. I'm not really in the mood to go down that rabbit hole.
Even if he has actual Celestial armor that they parade around in, it is obviously of a thinner and therefore less durable variety. Otherwise you could concievably have him taking anything a Celestial has tanked, which doesn't sound right. Plus his head isn't encased in armor anyway.
Plus there's a point to be made that Thanos could punch into a Celestial anyway. It just wouldn't do anything because of the healing factor.