Daredevil Vs Wolverine equal(ish) bodies

Well, DD took out Beast, Cap and Herc without any special powers, the use of the dark or "luck". Through the wonders of good, old fashioned "quality writing", the situation shows Daredevil using skill, blind-sight and use of his opponents momentum and strength, to defeat the Avengers.

DD lays out Beast. And, if it helps you naysayers, we can say that DD uses a "super soldier" throw of the indestructible shield to Herc's spine and Captain America's own superhuman momentum, turned into a redirected throw onto his skull, to take the big boys out.

And, again, the writing is decent, showing that Herc was down, disoriented, but not knocked out. And, yes, I think that if Captain America was able to hurl his shield, full force, and hit Herc, unaware, in his back, it would put him down for a bit. Believable.

He doesn't do it with any super speed, super strength, or anything else DD is not supposed to have.

He simply, does it. And, Wolverine would not be able to do that without his "gear".

Mart stomps in this scenario, anyone who believes otherwise is kidding themselves.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, DD took out Beast, Cap and Herc without any special powers, the use of the dark or "luck". Through the wonders of good, old fashioned "quality writing", the situation shows Daredevil using skill, blind-sight and use of his opponents momentum and strength, to defeat the Avengers.

DD lays out Beast. And, if it helps you naysayers, we can say that DD uses a "super soldier" throw of the indestructible shield to Herc's spine and Captain America's own superhuman momentum, turned into a redirected throw onto his skull, to take the big boys out.

And, again, the writing is decent, showing that Herc was down, disoriented, but not knocked out. And, yes, I think that if Captain America was able to hurl his shield, full force, and hit Herc, unaware, in his back, it would put him down for a bit. Believable.

He doesn't do it with any super speed, super strength, or anything else DD is not supposed to have.

He simply, does it. And, Wolverine would not be able to do that without his "gear".

Thank you for the scans. Couldnt find them yesterday.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thank you for the scans. Couldnt find them yesterday.

I'm not big on clicking links. Hold over from surfing at work.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, DD took out Beast, Cap and Herc without any special powers, the use of the dark or "luck". Through the wonders of good, old fashioned "quality writing", the situation shows Daredevil using skill, blind-sight and use of his opponents momentum and strength, to defeat the Avengers.

DD lays out Beast. And, if it helps you naysayers, we can say that DD uses a "super soldier" throw of the indestructible shield to Herc's spine and Captain America's own superhuman momentum, turned into a redirected throw onto his skull, to take the big boys out.

And, again, the writing is decent, showing that Herc was down, disoriented, but not knocked out. And, yes, I think that if Captain America was able to hurl his shield, full force, and hit Herc, unaware, in his back, it would put him down for a bit. Believable.

He doesn't do it with any super speed, super strength, or anything else DD is not supposed to have.

He simply, does it. And, Wolverine would not be able to do that without his "gear".

This entire post is laughable. Hercules is a class 100 elite brick, then yoi have cap who is more than a match for Matt and hank who although a scrub is still superhuman and physically above dd. The only one he can conceivably beat straight up is hank. Everyone else hell no. That whole scene is the essence of pis. Pure bullshit. Lol at good writing

Nothing like reading a juvenile response to a well thought out/meaning post.

Originally posted by riv6672
Nothing like reading a juvenile response to a well thought out/meaning post.

Are you going to post something relevant to the discussion or are you gonna just troll your own thread?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
This entire post is laughable. Hercules is a class 100 elite brick, then yoi have cap who is more than a match for Matt and hank who although a scrub is still superhuman and physically above dd. The only one he can conceivably beat straight up is hank. Everyone else hell no. That whole scene is the essence of pis. Pure bullshit. Lol at good writing

And, Holy God! Do u really want to argue in this direction, when Logan has had some of the most unrealistic, ridiculous, 'tard-inspired, fan-wanking victories in the history of comics? Really?

At least DD took that win without the writer suddenly upgrading him into the avatar of an abstract, a yada-yada-level mutant, the secret son of an intergalactic emperor, or another of the 100 cookie-cutter methods recent writers use to make the characters more formidable.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Are you going to post something relevant to the discussion or are you gonna just troll your own thread?

Originally posted by Horrificus
As I said in my post, DD is not shown to "beat" Herc or Cap. He defeats them.
As for Herc, well the truth is that he has been written as having a "glass jaw" for a good portion of his history. Whether u like it or not. Taking Cap's shield to the back is not Herc's lowest showing.

And, Holy God! Do u really want to argue in this direction, when Logan has had some of the most unrealistic, ridiculous, 'tard-inspired, fan-wanking victories in the history of comics? Really?

At least DD took that win without the writer suddenly upgrading him into the avatar of an abstract, a yada-yada-level mutant, the secret son of an intergalactic emperor, or another of the 100 cookie-cutter methods recent writers use to make the characters more formidable.

Glass jaw or not thats an extreme outlier for DD. He should not be able to beat or defeat him in any setting. That shield toss was akin to a one-shot. And if you feel a redirected shield toss from Cap is good enough to drop Hercules then we have nothing more to discuss.

As far as wolverine is concerned at least it's plausible. Unbreakable skeleton, insane hf, 100 plus years of combat training. As opposed to a 30 something blind ninja with radar sense

Originally posted by riv6672
If you're man enough to make the post, then nut up and accept the responses the post gets.

Oh lol youre mad. Hahaha too cute.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Oh lol youre mad. Hahaha too cute.

Originally posted by riv6672
Like i said, have some balls, dont try and deflect.
That truck didnt when when you were in 10th grade and it wont work this week. 😉

Deflect? You're trolling hun. U made a nerf match. Got upset anytime someone doesnt vote for dd. Jumped to horrificuz defense like you are his bitkh or something. Now tryin to tell me to "man up" like that means something on a comic book message board. Get your lame ass outta here. Either contribute or stfu.

Found this at herochat
Wolverine had been pumped full of carbonadium bullets and declared clinically dead but wills himself back even with two bullets still left in him,gets up and kills one guy with a throat chop Wolverine Origins 6-7 flashback. The fact that Wolverine's healing factor was not even lightyears close to being as good then as it is now should not be forgotten

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Glass jaw or not thats an extreme outlier for DD. He should not be able to beat or defeat him in any setting. That shield toss was akin to a one-shot. And if you feel a redirected shield toss from Cap is good enough to drop Hercules then we have nothing more to discuss.

As far as wolverine is concerned at least it's plausible. Unbreakable skeleton, insane hf, 100 plus years of combat training. As opposed to a 30 something blind ninja with radar sense

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
What about Wolverine's strength? Is it reduced to DD's level or stays the same? What about his speed?

How strong, physically, is Wolverine supposed to be? Since the implication seems to be for him to be put on DD's level it would be a reduction, but doesn't DD have strength enough to flip over limo's?

So is Wolverine a good deal above that level of strength?

Wolvie inst strong or stronger to the point where its going to make much of a difference in a fight with DD. Everyone who fights DD, gets their strength nulled for the simple fact that they are ALWAYS hard pressed to land a clean blow. Even the cl100 fighters. Its been prove. If by change it were to happen, it would take quite a few to actually knock DD out. Same goes for Wolvie id guess.

Now the powers that a writers has is uncanny. More times than not, we've seen a toss of Caps shield have some type of effect when hitting cl100 characters. Its nothing new. So to assume that Hercules cant be at least staggered when hitting hit from behind via shield toss (in the dark mind you), is odd to me. Lack of balance in the dark. Cant see footing etc.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Wolvie inst strong or stronger to the point where its going to make much of a difference in a fight with DD. Everyone who fights DD, gets their strength nulled for the simple fact that they are ALWAYS hard pressed to land a clean blow. Even the cl100 fighters. Its been prove. If by change it were to happen, it would take quite a few to actually knock DD out. Same goes for Wolvie id guess.

Now the powers that a writers has is uncanny. More times than not, we've seen a toss of Caps shield have some type of effect when hitting cl100 characters. Its nothing new. So to assume that Hercules cant be at least staggered when hitting hit from behind via shield toss (in the dark mind you), is odd to me. Lack of balance in the dark. Cant see footing etc.

Ill give u that