Originally posted by Silent Master
He basically just admitted to knowingly putting Cap and WS against someone that he considers too durable for the Thing to even injure. I'd say that is fairly concrete proof that this was intended to be spite/bait.
Unless you hear me say or read me say I am making a spite thread or a bait then open your mouth stay out of my threads and stfu.
Originally posted by golem370
You produce any other feat besides him fighting Thing that shows as an equal Thing strength wise there is none!!
If you are going to refuse to see reason and logic, and continue with this nonsense, despite all the evidence presented, then there really is no point to this in anyways.
And SM is right. Your continued focus on Doom's durability is basically admitting you made a spite thread the team can not win. What's even more laughable is you demand pure strength feats for Doom, but make outlandish claims of how Cap is going to bounce lighting bolts back at him, with nothing at all to back that up.
But I will indulge your idiocy one last time. Let's say that, despite everything we see onscreen, Thing is several times stronger than Doom (even though there is absolutely zero evidence proving this)... Ben can withstand the force of a truck ramming into him at speed and remain unmoved. When Doom hits him hard, he goes flying i.e. Doom appears to pack significantly more punch than the truck did. How many hits like that can Cap or Bucky take? Not many. So they will get beaten down. End of story.
His stance on Doom is even more laughable considering, when asked to produce feats to prove how much stronger Ultron was than Cap (after he made the claim there was a huge difference), he produces absolutely nothing, and just claims he should have been stronger, in his "opinion". So basically, he wants his opinion on strength levels to be taken as fact, rather than what we see onscreen.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
If you are going to refuse to see reason and logic, and continue with this nonsense, despite all the evidence presented, then there really is no point to this in anyways.And SM is right. Your continued focus on Doom's durability is basically admitting you made a spite thread the team can not win. What's even more laughable is you demand pure strength feats for Doom, but make outlandish claims of how Cap is going to bounce lighting bolts back at him, with nothing at all to back that up.
But I will indulge your idiocy one last time. Let's say that, despite everything we see onscreen, Thing is several times stronger than Doom (even though there is absolutely zero evidence proving this)... Ben can withstand the force of a truck ramming into him at speed and remain unmoved. When Doom hits him hard, he goes flying i.e. Doom appears to pack significantly more punch than the truck did. How many hits like that can Cap or Bucky take? Not many. So they will get beaten down. End of story.
You can talk and talk until you are blue in the face but I said PROOF with feats that Doom is close to Thing in strength other then their fight, you can't because there is none no proof.
Originally posted by golem370
You can talk and talk until you are blue in the face but I said PROOF with feats that Doom is close to Thing in strength other then their fight, you can't because there is none no proof.
Not just talk. Logic, rational thinking, and an actual understanding of physics, on top of the explanation of feats provided. You just can't grasp what literally every other person in this thread can.
Unlike you, who makes claims about Ultron's strength compared to Cap, and Doom's strength compared to Thing, without posting a single shred of actual proof to back up any of it, and then act like it's fact. All you do is make a statement + "IMO". Do you know what that makes you? An enormous hypocrite and troll.
I also notice how you completely dodge the point about Doom's hits being too much for the team regardless. So yeah, we're done here.
Originally posted by KingD19
We don't need strength feats for Doom. We have him fighting Ben. That's enough to scale it.We need feats for Cap and Bucky that shows they have any hope of damaging Doom or surviving his lightning...which there are none. Can we close this please?
Yeah, he is literally just being stubborn to the point of complete idiocy right now, because SM rightfully called him out on this thread.
Doom spite stomps, this is a non fight.
Golem, drop the Doom isn't as strong as thing and prove it nonsense. He's clearly in the ballpark based on their fights, but who cares if Ben is as strong.. a little stronger.. or a lot stronger.. Doom is FUNCTIONAL as strong in a fight, and that was show as clear as day. So in the end it doesn't matter how comparable they are... Doom can deal with someone on Things strength level, that level is way above these two guys. Don't be so stubborn. Vs. fights are indeed meant to and can show how people stake up in strength. It's not about them having an arm wrestling contest. Fights alone can tell us all we need to know about strength levels, and certainly functional strength levels.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Doom spite stomps, this is a non fight.Golem, drop the Doom isn't as strong as thing and prove it nonsense. He's clearly in the ballpark based on their fights, but who cares if Ben is as strong.. a little stronger.. or a lot stronger.. Doom is FUNCTIONAL as strong in a fight, and that was show as clear as day. So in the end it doesn't matter how comparable they are... Doom can deal with someone on Things strength level, that level is way above these two guys. Don't be so stubborn. Vs. fights are indeed meant to and can show how people stake up in strength. It's not about them having an arm wrestling contest. Fights alone can tell us all we need to know about strength levels, and certainly functional strength levels.
Dude, don't bother. You might as well try explaining it to a brick wall.