Rank these people in h2h skill only

Started by Darth Martin6 pages

Re: Re: Rank these people in h2h skill only

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Captain America / Winter Soldier
Ozy
-Batfleck-
Widow
DD (Netflix)
Elektra (Netflix)
DD / Bullseye (movie)
Nite-owl
Elektra (movie)

Nolanverse was pretty crap

Batfleck was touched multiple times by thugs. He's very skilled no doubt but more so relies on stats and armor. Veidt probably would've replicated that feat unarmed and without being touched.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
How do you equate Bucky blocking a bullet with ozy catching a bullet?

Bucky dodged continuous bullet fire from higher velocity bullets than the Ozy catch one.

Being a close range and catching a bullet is exponentially more impressive than aim dodging them.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Being a close range and catching a bullet is exponentially more impressive than aim dodging them.

Don't want to start this again but...

-Bucky has 2 showings of him reacting to bullets ( of higher caliber and velocity than Ozy)

Ozy has the bullet catch showing while NOT in action or fighting. Then we see him out of it for a bit after that feat.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Bucky dodged continuous bullet fire from higher velocity bullets than the Ozy catch one.

That's called aim dodging

Re: Re: Re: Rank these people in h2h skill only

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Batfleck was touched multiple times by thugs. He's very skilled no doubt but more so relies on stats and armor. Veidt probably would've replicated that feat unarmed and without being touched.
idk about that, but Ozy is above Batfleck so I don't see your issue?

Originally posted by Inhuman
Don't want to start this again but...

-Bucky has 2 showings of him reacting to bullets ( of higher caliber and velocity than Ozy)

Ozy has the bullet catch showing while NOT in action or fighting. Then we see him out of it for a bit after that feat.

Yes blocking and aim dodging... is the concept of Ozy being fast enough to catch a bullet that hard for your to accept? Seriously 😬

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
That's called aim dodging

Great feat. To bad when Ozy fights he doesn't move at that rate. It was a one time deal that he accomplished with specific circumstances.
Again, none of the fights in the film show him moving at the bullet catch rate. In fact he looked rather slow fighting.
The bullet catch thing was a special feat that was accomplished in a non fight or non action situation.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Yes blocking and aim dodging... is the concept of Ozy being fast enough to catch a bullet that hard for your to accept? Seriously 😬

Post Ozy moving at bullet catching speeds in a fight.

We've seen his fighting speed, it's not that great. so it's not like he normally operates at "bullet catching" speed.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Great feat. To bad when Ozy fights he doesn't move at that rate. It was a one time deal that he accomplished with specific circumstances.
Again, none of the fights in the film show him moving at the bullet catch rate. In fact he looked rather slow fighting.
The bullet catch thing was a special feat that was accomplished in a non fight or non action situation.

Post Ozy moving at bullet catching speeds in a fight.

Why would i need to? We've all seen ozy catch a bullet... we've all seen him fight 2 skilled opponents without so much as being touched... and still somehow you question his hand speed and fighting skills

What did ozy do to you? 😂

You're right, we have seen him fight and in sed fight we can clearly see he isn't moving at bullet catching speed.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Why would i need to? We've all seen ozy catch a bullet... we've all seen him fight a 2 skilled opponents without so much as being touched... and still somehow you question his hand speed and fighting skills

So again like ive said before concerning this issue...

Now we are "again" getting into the realm of "imagination" and things we don't see in the movie. So your asking me to imagine and assume.

Originally posted by Inhuman
So again like ive said before concerning this issue...

Now we are "again" getting into the realm of "imagination" and things we don't see in the movie. So your asking me to imagine and assume.

Ok. "Imagine" Bucky mind raping Ozy and turning him into a penguin.
Just imagine Bucky doing that ok.

😐

Imagination? So ozy hasn't beaten two opponents without being touched, then proceed to catch a bullet shortly afterwards?

Originally posted by Inhuman
Don't want to start this again but...

-Bucky has 2 showings of him reacting to bullets ( of higher caliber and velocity than Ozy)

Ozy has the bullet catch showing while NOT in action or fighting. Then we see him out of it for a bit after that feat.

So I'll ask you again, and see if you'll answer now... So is it your claim that Ozy can only move his arm that fast when catching bullets and not punching or blocking strikes? I'm curious if you actually believe that....

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
😐

Imagination? So ozy hasn't beaten two opponents without being touched, then proceed to catch a bullet shortly afterwards?

Ozy beats down 2 opponents that their greatest feat was beating up thugs and prisoners. Then in a "NON" fight situation, while having a gun pointed at him, and having time to anticipate and prepare in his head ( He is real smart), he catches the bullet from a not so powerful handgun.Then we see him on the floor. The bullet catch probably took all the wind out of him and he needed time to recover.

Impressive feat non the less, but it isn't WAAAYY out of the league of the Bucky dodges.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So I'll ask you again, and see if you'll answer now... So is it your claim that Ozy can only move his arm that fast when catching bullets and not punching or blocking strikes? I'm curious if you actually believe that....

I would have an easier time believing that if his speed in all his fights weren't so methodical and slow. So according to movie feats , Ozy doesn't move at that speed in fights.
If I missed something. Post it.

So because he caught a bullet while not fighting he isn't fast H2H? despite the fact that he fought 2 people without being touched once we will disregard that as a testament to his h2h speed and skill because NO and Ror only fought some thugs? 😂

Not the question I asked you. I asked you a very clear thing. I want to get your stance straight here. You seem to be saying Ozy can't punch or block that fast cause he didn't "seem" that fast. Okay... So my question stands... So you believe Ozy can only move his arm that fast when catching bullets.. True or False? Very simple question.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Ozy beats down 2 opponents that their greatest feat was beating up thugs and prisoners. Then in a "NON" fight situation, while having a gun pointed at him, and having time to anticipate and prepare in his head ( He is real smart), he catches the bullet from a not so powerful handgun.Then we see him on the floor. The bullet catch probably took all the wind out of him and he needed time to recover.

Impressive feat non the less, but it isn't WAAAYY out of the league of the Bucky dodges.

I would have an easier time believing that if his speed in all his fights weren't so methodical and slow. So according to movie feats , Ozy doesn't move at that speed in fights.
If I missed something. Post it.

The only point you're missing is that ozy is in fact so fast he could toy with his opponents... which he did in every altercation

Go ahead and post a vid of Ozy punching or blocking at bullet catching speeds during a hth fight.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not the question I asked you. I asked you a very clear thing. I want to get your stance straight here. You seem to be saying Ozy can't punch or block that fast cause he didn't "seem" that fast. Okay... So my question stands... So you believe Ozy can only move his arm that fast when catching bullets.. True or False? Very simple question.

I think Ozys reaction time is real fast, especially if he has time to anticipate what is going to happen like the bullet catching thing. As far as using this kind of speed in a fight, well from what we have seen , he doesn't fight at those speeds.
If Ozy didn't have slow fight scenes and just had the bullet catching feat, then yes, I would assume that he would fight with bullet catching speeds. BUT we do see him fight and he looked slow.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
The only point you're missing is that ozy is in fact so fast he could toy with his opponents... which he did in every altercation

Yes he toyed with his opponents in a slow manner. Thats probably a knock at Rorch and Nite Owl , as those 2 being not too impressive.