Game of Thrones

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Content producers cannot satisfy everybody actually; opinion will vary (always).

This battle taking place during the night added to the tension and POOR VISIBILITY contributed to complications for the living - well done. I loved the whole Resident Evil vibe.

And yes, Arya Stark taking down the Night King was a better twist in contrast to the typical and predictable John Snow being the Azor Ahai bullshit.

Keep in mind that Winterfell was constructed after the events of the Long Night and it was designed to not only draw attention of the Night King but also provided a fighting chance to the living. And Arya being the Faceless Man was a perfect surprise within - a place which she understood inside-out and could maneuver her way around.

Too much critic spoil the fun.

Yes you cannot satisfy anybody, but some things are universal and the issues with the visibility are about as universal as they get.

Lord of the Rings had Helm's Deep at night and you could still see what was going on.

Originally posted by samhain
Isn't she like an old hag or something? And that necklace thing keeps her looking youthful?

An enjoyable yet farcical episode, was really hoping for a 1 on 1 with Jon Snow and the Night King after Jon Snow was chasing him down, then the Night King wimped out and raised a load of dead to shield him. An awesome sword fight between the 2 of them is what that episode needed.

Yes, the necklace was keeping her youthful and alive, when she took it off she aged until she died of old age(whatever her natural age was, seemed ancient), that's how I took the scene.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, the necklace was keeping her youthful and alive, when she took it off she aged until she died of old age(whatever her natural age was, seemed ancient), that's how I took the scene.

Wrong. She already talked took off the Ruby in season 6 and went to bed without dying.

I've seen articles saying Theon redeemed himself lol. What? No.

Originally posted by samhain
Not closely at all. Where the last book leaves off is where Varys has Kevan Lannister and Grand Maester Pycelle killed. In the show is was Qyburn IIRC. Daenerys has also just been taken away from Meereen by her dragon and is now alone in the wastes and Jon Snow has just been shivved up by the Night's watch. That's why the writing has been shit for the last couple of years, they've gone beyond the books so they have to depend on the talent of their writers and GRRM's post-it notes.

It's gonna be funmy if the Night King gets taken down by dragon fire.

Originally posted by cdtm
So how close is this following the book?

If the Night King and Littlefinger is still around, I may have to start reading.

So, yeah the show kind of blew past the books like two seasons ago. We're in completely uncharted territory.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Content producers cannot satisfy everybody actually; opinion will vary (always).

This battle taking place during the night added to the tension and POOR VISIBILITY contributed to complications for the living - well done. I loved the whole Resident Evil vibe.

And yes, Arya Stark taking down the Night King was a better twist in contrast to the typical and predictable John Snow being the Azor Ahai bullshit.

Keep in mind that Winterfell was constructed after the events of the Long Night and it was designed to not only draw attention of the Night King but also provided a fighting chance to the living. And Arya being the Faceless Man was a perfect surprise within - a place which she understood inside-out and could maneuver her way around.

Too much critic spoil the fun.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's gonna be funmy if the Night King gets taken down by dragon fire.

I think in the books he's the former leader of the nights watch which is why he's called the Night's King.

The Night King straight up doesn't exist in the books. There is no leader type character yet and we've gotten zero information about them whatsoever. Even the scenes where the Walkers attack Bran at the Three-Eyed Raven's spot hasn't happened yet in the books.

GRRM also outright confirmed the Night King will not appear in the books.

Originally posted by NemeBro
GRRM also outright confirmed the Night King will not appear in the books.

Do you have a source for this? Not that I think you're lying, just want to read it.

So odd considering GRRM also said he gave all major plot points to the HBO and D&D. So these bastards just went rogue with the story if that's the case.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Wrong. She already talked took off the Ruby in season 6 and went to bed without dying.

That was like 3ish years ago...

Originally posted by Robtard
Do you have a source for this? Not that I think you're lying, just want to read it.

So odd considering GRRM also said he gave all major plot points to the HBO and D&D. So these bastards just went rogue with the story if that's the case.

or is it they just had to clear everything with GRRM. maybe the plot points were really loose and he just gave the ending?

IIRC there is not a night king in the books except for the story on how the wights became a thing

he probably thought it be a cool idea since it would vastly different from his books, he could still surprise the readers

Originally posted by Tzeentch
The Night King straight up doesn't exist in the books. There is no leader type character yet and we've gotten zero information about them whatsoever. Even the scenes where the Walkers attack Bran at the Three-Eyed Raven's spot hasn't happened yet in the books.

Whaat? I read this entire article where they went into how he's called the "Night's King" and he used to be a former leader of the nights watch.

Where did they get that info? Lol.

The Night's King is a human, the 13th Lord Commander of the Night's Watch who declared himself a king and supposedly had a female White Walker as his wife; he was killed, but the story is put forth as myth and legend.

Guess it's possible that could be spun into him becoming the Night King in the show though magic, but as Neme pointed out, GRRM apparently has no plan to have a Night King in the books.

Night's King =/= Night King

Originally posted by Surtur
Whaat? I read this entire article where they went into how he's called the "Night's King" and he used to be a former leader of the nights watch.

Where did they get that info? Lol.

It's all from stories about the 13th Night Watch Lord Commander who fell in love with a woman from beyond the wall with skin like ice and eyes like blue stars. He took over the Night's Watch and was defeated by the Free Folk aided by House Stark. He made sacrifices to the actual White Walkers (known as The Others in the book) This all happened after the long night.

Another thought for the upcoming last few episodes.

Do you think the Lannister army with turn against Cersi and fight for Jaime and Tyrion given they have both commanded and fought alongside them and also knowing that Cersi had Kevan Lannister murdered. They don't have any reason to be loyal to her.

i like the ep still, but i have to say: the dothraki were wasted. what a stupid move, sending the cavalry out first into the dark, with no weapons which can kill white walkers, and only 2 or 3 trebuchet volleys because all the good guys collectively are tactical dipshits who should have been sending a shitton of artillary fire since before the episode began. dumbcunts. the night king was robbed of his earned victory by plot armor

The entire battle plan was retarded from the get-go. Jon and Dany wasting the dragons by chasing the NK for half the episode made no tactical sense. Charging your only cavalry with no support into an endless supply of zombies made no tactical sense. Abandoning the purpose of a castle by choosing to fight outside of it made no tactical sense. Fighting in the courtyards so you could be swarmed on all sides instead of retreating into the castle interior and fighting in the narrow hallways made no tactical sense. Leaving just the Ironborn to defend Bran even though it was established two episodes prior that the NK was going to go straight for him made no tactical sense.

A battle written by English majors.

There was so many dumbshit decisions. Like after the trench was lit and the dead were standing around why weren't they firing volleys of fire and dragonglass arrows into them at that point instead of waiting for them to start putting out the flames?

Also once the trench was lit Dany and Jon them knew where the demarcation line was where the dragons could blast the dead without hitting the living as they were no longer flying completely blind so why were they still blasting the dead so far away from Winterfell?

And yes, the Dothraki should have charged from the side into the undead ranks LotR style at both Helm's Deep and Pellenor Fields.

Speaking of horsemen, where were the Knights of the Vale? Knights in full armoured cavalry would smash the undead hard.

I understand that the Dothraki falling so quickly is for dramatic effect and relates to Jaime's comments about how there wasn't an army in the world that could stand up to a Dothraki charge and him being so horrified at being proven wrong.

And where were the wall defences? No flaming oil? No dragonglass spikes? They even had chains hanging down to HELP the undead climb.

And if all it takes is one stab from dragonglass to kill the undead why not have everyone on top of the wall with 2 daggers that are more quickly used than axes and swords?

The only people who seemed remotely competent were the Unsullied.

Surely Tyrion would have also thought about wildfyre so where were the pyromancers? They knew fire killed the undead for ages. It's not like they didn't have time to at least make some.

Why was ghost charging with the Dothraki? He doesn't even know any of them. Why wasn't he protecting the people in the crypt? At least he'd get to chew on some Stark bones.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
There was so many dumbshit decisions. Like after the trench was lit and the dead were standing around why weren't they firing volleys of fire and dragonglass arrows into them at that point instead of waiting for them to start putting out the flames?

jfc thats right

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Also once the trench was lit Dany and Jon them knew where the demarcation line was where the dragons could blast the dead without hitting the living as they were no longer flying completely blind so why were they still blasting the dead so far away from Winterfell?

everything they did was retarded until dany somehow turned into a swordsman, with no training or practice at all. what about the part where she decides to daydream longingly while the wights are crawling up drogon's back. what the F*CK

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Speaking of horsemen, where were the Knights of the Vale? Knights in full armoured cavalry would smash the undead hard.

i think they were there, but unfortunately they all had the same breed of vanishing horses that stannis's army had. i think i saw some KotV helmets among the corpses.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I understand that the Dothraki falling so quickly is for dramatic effect and relates to Jaime's comments about how there wasn't an army in the world that could stand up to a Dothraki charge and him being so horrified at being proven wrong.

that's why everything was retarded. cinematic effect. dothraki with flaming swords and artillary overhead, full battlefield view with dragons flaming the undead from far away, etc.