Originally posted by NemeBro
I wish Nephthys was still here. I'd point out how Daenerys takes obvious sadistic glee in incinerating human beings with her dragons, glorifying in her own power, but I'm pretty sure there aren't any Daenerys fans left here.
It's a serious stretch to say that Dany takes glee in inflicting death, almost everything we've seen points to the contrary. Flying in on the dragon was literally her last resort and most of the flame attacks are strategically targeted at Lannister supplies not people. Not to mention Dany's attitude during the battle was stoic and not at all one that would indicate enjoyment. I'm still a Dany endorser she's clearly the best option.
And I'm not sure why you're holding these backwards interpretations of GoT events, senselessly hating on popular things in a vain attempt to appear edgy?
Originally posted by Firefly218Being edgy on a comic book forum? Is that even possible
It's a serious stretch to say that Dany takes glee in inflicting death, almost everything we've seen points to the contrary. Flying in on the dragon was literally her last resort and most of the flame attacks are strategically targeted at Lannister supplies not people. Not to mention Dany's attitude during the battle was stoic and not at all one that would indicate enjoyment. I'm still a Dany endorser she's clearly the best option.And I'm not sure why you're holding these backwards interpretations of GoT events, senselessly hating on popular things in a vain attempt to appear edgy?
Originally posted by Firefly218I must have imagined her smiling and saying "Dracarys" with obvious glee. I must have also imagined all of the Lannister soldiers she incinerated while riding Drogon.
It's a serious stretch to say that Dany takes glee in inflicting death, almost everything we've seen points to the contrary. Flying in on the dragon was literally her last resort and most of the flame attacks are strategically targeted at Lannister supplies not people. Not to mention Dany's attitude during the battle was stoic and not at all one that would indicate enjoyment. I'm still a Dany endorser she's clearly the best option.And I'm not sure why you're holding these backwards interpretations of GoT events, senselessly hating on popular things in a vain attempt to appear edgy?
No but you're actually just delusional here. 👆
Seriously, watch the scene again. Daenerys is smiling as she has Drogon bathe human beings in a torrent of flame. She enjoys lording her power over others and consigning people to death with it.
This isn't even the first time it's happened.
And if anything, she looked to be enjoying it even more in this most recent episode.
My interpretation isn't backwards at all. I find it very hard to believe that you don't actually see what I'm talking about. I expect that you're just in denial so you can support your favorite character, lol.
I wasn't even really bringing it up as a negative. Daenerys being a megalomaniac is perfectly consistent with her character. 👆
Though I do expect this element of her to be mostly ignored because D&D, much like yourself, are in denial about how she really is and view her as a straightforward hero.
As for why I hate on Game of Thrones, I hate on it because it's bad, though it can sometimes be enjoyable. I love Cersei though, she's waifu. 👆
Originally posted by marwash22Nah, Euron is literally teleporting his fleet around the continent with his ****ing mind, since IIRC Cersei met with the representative of the Iron Bank of Braavos right after she handles her business with the Sand Sneks Euron captured. She was given a single fortnight to pay back her family's debts, which is to say a single week. So in less than a week Euron fed his men, had them re-equipped after their defeat of Yara's fleet, brought them from the Red Keep westward (and right past Dragonstone btw, how exactly did he sneak his fleet past Daenerys' fleet and, more importantly, her dragons? Why can he bring his entire armada to the red keep and out with impunity?), brought them south past the southern tip of the continent, then west past the western tip, then brought them north all the way to Casterly Rock, all in less than a week.
you might have a point there. I'd have to watch again to be sure, but don't be a dick (hard, i know), you know they're skipping time.
Nah man, Euron's fleet is powered by plot and nothing else. There's no logical explanation for any of this. 👇
Originally posted by NemeBro
I must have imagined her smiling and saying "Dracarys" with obvious glee. I must have also imagined all of the Lannister soldiers she incinerated while riding Drogon.No but you're actually just delusional here. 👆
Seriously, watch the scene again. Daenerys is smiling as she has Drogon bathe human beings in a torrent of flame. She enjoys lording her power over others and consigning people to death with it.
This isn't even the first time it's happened.
And if anything, she looked to be enjoying it even more in this most recent episode.
My interpretation isn't backwards at all. I find it very hard to believe that you don't actually see what I'm talking about. I expect that you're just in denial so you can support your favorite character, lol.
I wasn't even really bringing it up as a negative. Daenerys being a megalomaniac is perfectly consistent with her character. 👆
Though I do expect this element of her to be mostly ignored because D&D, much like yourself, are in denial about how she really is and view her as a straightforward hero.
As for why I hate on Game of Thrones, I hate on it because it's bad, though it can sometimes be enjoyable. I love Cersei though, she's waifu. 👆
We've seen Dany do the same thing now through 6 ****ing seasons if you don't understand her characterization yet
And the whole seeing Dany smile thing is just you presuming to know sh!t you don't actually know. I contend she smiles in that GIF because she's about to inflict justice, not because she enjoys causing death.
Her character has been through so much injustice in her lifetime it makes sense. Dany has the same thing as Sansa right now, having been so powerless and helpless for so long, now that she has power SHE GONNA KEEP THAT SHIT. Her clinging to the power and control is not megalomaniac.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Nah, afraid not, no bullshit or joking. The scene was awful and cringey, lol, and not just because of that. What a corny fight scene.
I disagree with this sh!tty dumbasss opinion so much.
You're criticizing the mechanics of the fight between Arya and Brienne without understanding its purpose. The fight was a way to show Sansa how much Arya has changed and evolved without a big chunk of redundant dialogue recounting everything that's happened.
Not to mention you're completely wrong the fight was awesome. It was essentially ninja versus knight, a clash of styles.
Originally posted by Firefly218
DAny could have easily used her dragon to burn down the red keep, exterminating all her enemies along with countless innocent people. Instead she used it on a military target away from innocent civilians, suggesting a strategic effort to minimize deaths on her part.
Wow, she doesn't indiscriminately slaughter thousands of innocent civilians? What an incredibly moral and just character. 😂
I'm not saying she's a mustache-twirling cartoon villain, but you're in complete denial regarding her more unsavory attributes.
We've seen Dany do the same thing now through 6 ****ing seasons if you don't understand her characterization yet
Oh, I'm much smarter than you. There is nothing about this show I understand less than you do friend. You losing your mind and throwing a temper tantrum over me saying something negative about your waifu and the show she's in isn't helping you. 👇
And the whole seeing Dany smile thing is just you presuming to know sh!t you don't actually know. I contend she smiles in that GIF because she's about to inflict justice, not because she enjoys causing death.
That is a valid interpretation of the gif I posted (albeit it doesn't actually refute the fact that she is expressing joy at incinerating her enemies, as opposed to more morally good characters like Jon who treat it as something necessary, but nothing to be happy about), but it isn't a valid interpretation of the most recent episode. She wasn't doling out justice to an invading army, she was reveling in the horrific slaughter of people whose homes she is invading.
Her character has been through so much injustice in her lifetime it makes sense. Dany has the same thing as Sansa right now, having been so powerless and helpless for so long, now that she has power SHE GONNA KEEP THAT SHIT. Her clinging to the power and control is not megalomaniac.
The difference between Sansa and Daenerys is that, as far as we know, Sansa does not take sadistic pleasure in the slaughter of others, even when she desires it. While she wanted to have the Umber and Karstark families executed and their holdings distributed among the other families in the North, she didn't seem to take any personal satisfaction in the prospect of that course of action. She was being ruthless and, in her mind, pragmatic. It isn't that Daenerys kills people with her dragon in battle that supports her being a megalomaniac. It's that she takes obvious pleasure in doing so. Incinerating her enemies, even mere mooks who have not personally slighted her, is fun for her. She quite enjoys it. By comparison, Sansa expressed less pleasure in her execution of Ramsay, who had personally wronged and defiled her on multiple levels.
I disagree with this sh!tty dumbasss opinion so much.
I bet you're real fun at parties. Don't be such a neurotic little hypersensitive child. I'm not raping your mother, I'm criticizing a TV show and character you like. Don't be a *****.
You're criticizing the mechanics of the fight between Arya and Brienne
Yes.
without understanding its purpose.
No, you're assuming I don't understand the purpose. The purpose is fine, and in fact there is another, probably more important purpose to that scene that your tiny brain didn't catch but my own massively monolithic mastodon of a brain did. While yes, it did show Sansa how much Arya has changed, it also served to make Sansa feel inadequate as she realized how incredibly self-sufficient and personally tough Arya has become (which fits with this silly show's theme that a real woman is a personally badass action girl), possibly making her envious of Arya's effortless getting on with Brienne, potentially leading to future tension (though not sure how they'll fit that into three episodes).
But the actual presentation and choreography was garbage. 👆
Not to mention you're completely wrong the fight was awesome. It was essentially ninja versus knight, a clash of styles.It was stupid. Arya deflecting two-handed blows from a stronger woman wielding a larger sword with a single hand makes for a dumb-looking fight scene, and Arya's Power Rangers spinning and poses were mad corny.
I don't hate all embellished acrobatics in fight scenes. I was mostly fine with the choreography on Oberyn's end in his fight with the Mountain (Gregor is the one who had the awful choreography). But Arya and Brienne's fight was corny, made all the more corny by how laughably overcompetent she has been since she returned to Westeros.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I was mostly fine with the choreography on Oberyn's end in his fight with the Mountain.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I was mostly fine with the choreography
Originally posted by NemeBro
mostly fine
i agree with a lot of what you're saying. dany is being teased as a possible villain and some people are too emotionally invested in her to see that. arya's casual one-handed blocking of brienne's downward cut (with a metal toothpick) was kinda ridiculous. however, if oberyn/mountain fight choreography did not fully please you, then there is no pleasing you.
Originally posted by samhainif the lannisters lose their army they are pretty much ****ed right? What the **** are the iron born gonna do to dothtraki on a field? They could never hold the reach in any real time
I don't think we actually saw Euron with his fleet at Casterly Rock. Makes more sense if they were his reserves from the Iron Islands sailed down the coast a bit and he's still with the rest near Kings Landing.
Originally posted by samhain
I don't think we actually saw Euron with his fleet at Casterly Rock. Makes more sense if they were his reserves from the Iron Islands sailed down the coast a bit and he's still with the rest near Kings Landing.
you can spot euron's flagship "silence" in that scene. it's safe to assume he was on it.
Originally posted by HueyFreeman
if the lannisters lose their army they are pretty much ****ed right? What the **** are the iron born gonna do to dothtraki on a field? They could never hold the reach in any real time
That was only part of the Lannister army, Jamie had noted that they were spread out thin and that made them vulnerable, which we saw.
They are ****ed though, as the army Dany and the Horde attacked was the supply trains, so the rest of the Lannister army is left with a shortage of supplies.
But the gold did get through, so that's something.
Originally posted by Robtard
They are ****ed though, as the army Dany and the Horde attacked was the supply trains, so the rest of the Lannister army is left with a shortage of supplies.
supremely stupid move, imho. she was already decimating the lannisters. should have saved the supply train for themselves. frikin winter is here, man. you don't go blowing up free food in winter.
Originally posted by RobtardYeah which means she might have access to the golden company. But lol one king already got deserted by them (he deserved it but still)
That was only part of the Lannister army, Jamie had noted that they were spread out thin and that made them vulnerable, which we saw.They are ****ed though, as the army Dany and the Horde attacked was the supply trains, so the rest of the Lannister army is left with a shortage of supplies.
But the gold did get through, so that's something.
Originally posted by Bashar TegTbh, I can't really remember anything on Oberyn's part I recall that I disliked about that fight that wasn't a direct result of the Mountain's phaggotry. My point of contention with that scene was that Hafthor Bjornsson has no training with a sword, be it in stage fighting or HEMA or whatever, and the fight scene really showed that. 👇
i agree with a lot of what you're saying. dany is being teased as a possible villain and some people are too emotionally invested in her to see that. arya's casual one-handed blocking of brienne's downward cut (with a metal toothpick) was kinda ridiculous. however, if oberyn/mountain fight choreography did not fully please you, then there is no pleasing you.
One character being so obviously incompetent dragged the whole fight scene down. It was, I suppose, ultimately inevitable when you consider that he likely didn't have much time to practice (and getting a stuntman to fill in for him is impossible), but it lowered the quality of the scene nonetheless. Gregor is a vicious brute, but he has been a knight for over a decade and has a lot of combat experience. He should know how to swing a sword lol.
