Luke Skywalker (FotJ) vs. Valkorion

Yeah, but IIRC that was on a DS Nexus. Also, this is Luke's worst of the TK feats, which I said, and roughtly 3 decades pre-prime, iirc. Also, iirc, he also rebuild it with one move. Easily rebuilding a Mountain-sized fortress pre-prime, is at least as impressive; tho you can argue about it.

True enough

Lmao. Vitiate brought down a ceiling, Luke brought down a fortress that reached the skies, then rebuilt it, and, IIRC, destroyed it again. And Vitiate was a spirit, yes, but Luke was pre-prime, so it balances out.

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At least you have given me a feat, that more than Beefy has done, lel.
This feat puts Valk imo >Plagueis now(I had him >Plaggy before, but I wasn't sure on that, tbh).

Originally posted by Ursumeles
I want to see them :/
Iirc, he was reading Lukes mind, and was crushing him in a Lightsaber Battle, so, yeah he is >>Valk.

Sarasu Taalon is no where close to Valkorion in power.

He was a spirit and was already weakened before hand as well, my point was that the feats are similar; that's all.

If that was your point then you did a shit job of conveying it.

Nah, he proved that Valk is similar to mid-NR era Luke.

The only thing he proved is that Vitiate has a feat that's not even close to Luke's.

Yupp, Vitate(Tho Valk is >= Vity) is still under NR Luke, and that feat doesn't compare with FotJ Luke.

Originally posted by Azronger
The only thing he proved is that Vitiate has a feat that's not even close to Luke's.

Sure, and Vitiate has feats that Luke couldn't even match, so great argument 👆

Next time you may want to refrain from being intentionally misleading, that is if you want to be taken seriously.

Then again, you tried to convince everybody that it Vitiate centuries of ritual prep so... Lol

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Sure, and Vitiate has feats that Luke couldn't even match, so great argument 👆

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Which?

His various rituals, his out of body thing, his ability to block sabers with his hands, his utter destruction of the entire dark council? That's why it's completely asinine to say character X is more powerful than character Y because character X did something character Y didn't. But that's the kind of arguments we're getting from these unruly teenagers these days.

Lol, I just said that Luke has superior TK and TP feats.
Which rituals? I know only the Nathema, and that was with much help.
Yeah, you can hardly compare Vitates essence transfer with Luke's feats. But how does him help that in a fight?
He blocked them with TK. Still very impressive, but he blocked the Strokes from a "just Sub-Dooku opponent :/.
Had anyone of them feats/good accolades? Was someone like Baras/Thanaton in the council?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Lol, I just said that Luke has superior TK and TP feats.
Which rituals? I know only the Nathema, and that was with much help.
Yeah, you can hardly compare Vitates essence transfer with Luke's feats. But how does him help that in a fight?
He blocked them with TK. Still very impressive, but he blocked the Strokes from a "just Sub-Dooku opponent :/.
Had anyone of them feats/good accolades? Was someone like Baras/Thanaton in the council?

You're really just reaching now.

Why? I just said that we can't compare Vitates Essence transfer, and wanted more information on the rest. Lol.
And that Lukes TK/TP>Vitates.

So Valkorion's weakened spirit collapsing a ceiling(which even Dooku can do with a hand gesture) on a nexus apparently is similar to Luke, years pre-prime, collapsing, rebuilding, then collapsing and scattering a mountain sized fortress for giggles?

LMAO.

Originally posted by MythLord
So Valkorion's weakened spirit collapsing a ceiling(which even Dooku can do with a hand gesture) on a nexus apparently is similar to Luke, years pre-prime, collapsing, rebuilding, then collapsing and scattering a mountain sized fortress for giggles?

LMAO.

It was the inner sanctums, IIRC. So yeah, it was just a ceiling. Even Jacen has a better feat, and Luke one-shotted a much more powerful version of him.

Jacen>Vitate confirmed 🙂 🙂