Originally posted by The Ellimist
Does he really? I think beating Yoda and crushing pre-vaapad Windu + the B team is more impressive than overwhelming featless strike teams and killing losers like Darth Marr.
If you take the TFU endings and shit as legit representations of power, then one shotting Galen with lightning and bringing Vader to his knees with lightning are possibly just as impressive. Though clobbering Revan's tutaminis 300 years before KOTFE, (while his power is described as, "ever increasing"😉 is probably more impressive than both. The handlings of Arcann were also immensely impressive.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Eh, Sidious obviously had the enviroment in his favor when he faced Yoda,
Perhaps, although it's a tough sell to compare to a guy who uses nexuses for everything. And the RotS novel and a variety of other sources make it clear that Yoda was struggling regardless.
I'm not too impressed with how he handled Luke either.
In Dark Empire? Luke at that point was far more powerful than anyone Valkorion's ever defeated, and he still only beat Palpatine with Leia's Force harmony.
Valkorion's ability to deal with Arcann, especially the second time when he was weakened, was fairly impressive,
Arcann has done little to put himself on Windu + the B-team's level.
as well as his handling of Revan,
To the contrary, Revan knocks him on his ass. Vitiate needs to charge lightning to overwhelm him; Sidious does not to push Yoda's defenses to their limit. Vitiate then gets disarmed and nearly killed by Meetra's saber throw. It was a pretty sh*tty showing tbh.
I don't see how it's as impressive as Sidious handling Yoda and the B team.
two Dark Councils,
He uses an ability that he conveniently never replicates. It smacks suspiciously of prep/ritual+nexus to me.
and those strike teams which weren't all terrible, even if half of it was. It's not something I could never see Sidious doing, it's just something I've never seen from him.
I think Windu + the B-team has more feats than any strike team Vitiate/Valkorion has faced, and Sidious would've crushed them had Windu not put up a peak performance.
Valkorion's whole game plan is to be so much more powerful than his enemies that he just kills them outright. Against someone strong enough to challenge him and force a melee, he really doesn't have much going for him (except for teleportation which I admit I hadn't considered).
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
If you take the TFU endings and shit as legit representations of power, then one shotting Galen with lightning and bringing Vader to his knees with lightning are possibly just as impressive.
👆 Best dominating non-Anchorite performance in the mythos, perhaps next to Luke pinning Caedus.
Though clobbering Revan's tutaminis 300 years before KOTFE, (while his power is described as, "ever increasing"😉 is probably more impressive than both.
❌ Starkiller's feats >>> Revan 2.0's, and Sidious doesn't need to charge his attack.
The handlings of Arcann were also immensely impressive.
Are they? What has Arcann done exactly? Windu has much better feats, and before vaapad he can't do shit to Sidious even with three Jedi at his side.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Perhaps, although it's a tough sell to compare to a guy who uses nexuses for everything. And the RotS novel and a variety of other sources make it clear that Yoda was struggling regardless.
In Dark Empire? Luke at that point was far more powerful than anyone Valkorion's ever defeated, and he still only beat Palpatine with Leia's Force harmony.
Arcann has done little to put himself on Windu + the B-team's level.
To the contrary, Revan knocks him on his ass. Vitiate needs to charge lightning to overwhelm him;
Sidious does not to push Yoda's defenses to their limit.
Vitiate then gets disarmed and nearly killed by Meetra's saber throw. It was a pretty sh*tty showing tbh.I don't see how it's as impressive as Sidious handling Yoda and the B team.
He uses an ability that he conveniently never replicates. It smacks suspiciously of prep/ritual+nexus to me.
I think Windu + the B-team has more feats than any strike team Vitiate/Valkorion has faced,
and Sidious would've crushed them had Windu not put up a peak performance.
Valkorion's whole game plan is to be so much more powerful than his enemies that he just kills them outright. Against someone strong enough to challenge him and force a melee, he really doesn't have much going for him (except for teleportation which I admit I hadn't considered).
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
He has the reaction time to do it in a combative situation. The Dark Council feats are mostly impressive by sheer numbers than by how great the Counselors are.
The question is whether or not he could bring that same kind of power to bear in a fight without prep and a nexus. IIRC, the Encyclopedia says the first purge occurred "in a flash of light" on the steps of the Dark Temple.
