Valkoriate vs. Sheev

Started by Beniboybling16 pages

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Or blocking the saber with his bare hands casually. 🙂
Which Kylo Ren replicated while exhausted, emotionally conflicted, and shot up. 👆
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Still a lot of energy though.
It was the most powerful attack Marek ever unleashed, potentially.

True 'dat, Beni. 👆

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Round 1: 2-1
Round 2: 4-1
Round 3: 4-1

Updated score to include Skillz, 'Strap, Beni.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The point of the movement is to kill you, Tempest

what mmm

Killing you will make the TOR Brigade legendary, and while I do not like being under the same brand as LeGenD and Neph, that is a worthy goal. Claiming this forum is also a side benefit.

Don't worry, Valkorion will go the way of Bane soon enough. It'll take longer though, his followers are nothing like we've ever seen before.

Tempest and Carthage, do this.

Kinda hard to kill Tempest when Sidious is still the GOAT 🙂

dammit, Beni's post was deleted

Well it really doesn't matter how weak or unskilled Kylo and Rey are compared with Arcann for your point to be valid. If anything, it's proof enough that Valkorion's ability to TK lightsaber blows isn't remarkable in the grand scheme of things if a talented neophyte like Ren is capable of doing it.

I'm not allowed to talk to Beefy anymore. 🙂

Anyway, I would just like to make the general point that when Kanan experienced Oneness, he one-shotted Maul, which should give a good idea of how powerful Rey was at that point.

EDIT: Yeah, but I would say the strength behind the swing is important. But altogether I agree. Whether or not Rey was the weaker opponent, Sidious is vastly more powerful than Ren.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Killing you will make the TOR Brigade legendary, and while I do not like being under the same brand as LeGenD and Neph, that is a worthy goal. Claiming this forum is also a side benefit.

I am but the Galactic Emperor's prophet.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Kinda hard to kill Tempest when Sidious is still the GOAT 🙂

It's only difficult because one of us is a filthy traitor. I'll give you a hint: It's not me.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm not allowed to talk to Beefy anymore. 🙂

Anyway, I would just like to make the general point that when Kanan experienced Oneness, he one-shotted Maul, which should give a good idea of how powerful Rey was at that point.

EDIT: Yeah, but I would say the strength behind the swing is important. But altogether I agree. Whether or not Rey was the weaker opponent, Sidious is vastly more powerful than Ren.

TK is orders of magnitude more powerful than any physical blow, perhaps Anakin Skywalker aside. Arcann is unquestionably stronger and more skilled than n3wbs like Rey and Kylo, but not strong enough that physical strength in that situation would be relevant.

@Fresh: The Emperor studied the force in all its guises, which would include the Zakuulan side of the force 🙂🙂🙂

Originally posted by The_Tempest
TK is orders of magnitude more powerful than any physical blow, perhaps Anakin Skywalker aside. Arcann is unquestionably stronger and more skilled than n3wbs like Rey and Kylo, but not strong enough that physical strength in that situation would be relevant.
Yeah probably.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
@Fresh: The Emperor studied the force in all its guises, which would include the Zakuulan side of the force 🙂🙂🙂
🙂 🙂 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
@Fresh: The Emperor studied the force in all its guises, which would include the Zakuulan side of the force 🙂🙂🙂

There is no Zakuulian side.

Obviously Arcann would punch Rey's or Kylo's shit in, but a lightsaber doesn't burn hotter in the hands of an expert than it does in a neophyte. Beni's point is valid.

Sure, but there's a difference in regards to force aptitude/force/mental barriers when you have Rey attacking Ren and Arcann attacking Valkorion, unless you believe it's as simple as swinging a lightsaber at someone.

Valky needs to hold his hand out to block Arcann's attacks, so he probably can't last very long against the speed and ferocity of Palpatine's.

What does effortlessly blocking Arcann's attacks have to do with dealing with Palpatine's ferocity? He'd actually have to fight Palpatine.

Tbh TFU really cemented Vader + Palpatine's status. It's the only source material to rival OCW levels of wank, except for maybe late NR - FotJ Luke.

One thing Valkorion really does have going for him is the immense power he retains as a spirit.

Well, unless you consider the circumstances regarding each. Each time Valkorion has had a lot of advantages Palpatine did not. mmm