Originally posted by hutchy1345
I haven't seen anything to suggest vader is quicker or stronger
Physically? He probably is by virtue of his cybernetics, but that's not a major factor anyway. In the Force, his canon feats actually rival his Legends incarnation. Knocking over AT-ATs, telekinetically crushing starfighters, detonating hundreds of thermal detonators simultaneously >>> Bane. Bane's only really impressive feat is the destruction of the Lehon temple, and I do accept that DoE Bane > RoT Bane > Lehon PoD Bane, but he had to charge that attack, and given that he never replicates anything on that magnitude it was probably a desperation overperformance. Plus shattering a bunch of stone (he brings it down but doesn't obliterate the whole thing) isn't really as impressive as crushing armored starfighters.
It won't get down to a duel in the first place; Vader's telekinesis, which has bypassed physical barriers and so wouldn't care about orbalisks, is too powerful for Bane to handle.
If it does, canon still has similarly dazzling speed feats in the novelizations (Windu and Palpatine moving faster than Anakin can see), and it wouldn't fit into continuity for Vader to be a hundred times slower than those characters. I otherwise don't know how to compare dueling across continuities; if we equate their movie incarnations, Vader stomps by virtue of being implied to be above Palpatine.
Deflecting raindrops for 10mins is a quicker showing of stamina and speed than anything vader has done
Tk? What about the bane moved that moon
Or collapsing that temple way before his prime
How do you know his tk can go through orbalisks any evidence for this?
But yes he loses a sabers fight
Also orbalisks require millions of volts of electricity to kill them, bane produced that casually, which i'm sure could fry vader's suit or at least severely damage him
Yes vader has defeated opponents quicker
But Bane is quicker than all of those opponents, just as strong in the force as vader/won't get ragdolled, is at least able to content/survive physically and has lightning
Yes he's a less capable duelist but he was a match for kas'im long before his prime, so I'm sure he can at least contend with vader in that regard
So I give bane 5/6 out of 10 victories
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Deflecting raindrops for 10mins is a quicker showing of stamina and speed than anything vader has done
Tk? What about the bane moved that moon
Or collapsing that temple way before his prime
How do you know his tk can go through orbalisks any evidence for this?
But yes he loses a sabers fight
Also orbalisks require millions of volts of electricity to kill them, bane produced that casually, which i'm sure could fry vader's suit or at least severely damage him
Blaster bolts are faster than rain drops, and lasting ten minutes is a feat of endurance not speed. Also deflecting turbolasers is something Bane hasn't even shown he is capable of reacting too much less deflecting. Bane's moon feat was retconned in the novels, and he only collapsed the temple on a potent darkside nexus. Vader's telekinetic strikes exploded beasts that could deflect blaster bolts/knock down massive trees/cause cave ins, as well as crush armored TIE fighters/melt durasteel.
He can blow up the orbalisks or just ragdoll Bane until he breaks his bones.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, Bane's faster. But Vader defeats opponents who are more agile than him all the time. It's pretty much the only notable advantage Bane possesses other than lightning, which Vader has taken measures against. It's frankly just not enough to win for a majority, or anything close to it.
Yeah, so lets claim Bane is faster when Vader's feats of blitzing Jedi, deflecting omnidirectional blasterfire, and turbolasers are better feats than any speed showings from Bane 👆
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Bane needed to charge his attack to knock down the foundations of the temple. He won't have time to do that here, because Vader can crush starfighters just by clenching his fist.
Originally posted by carthage
Blaster bolts are faster than rain drops, and lasting ten minutes is a feat of endurance not speed. Also deflecting turbolasers is something Bane hasn't even shown he is capable of reacting too much less deflecting. Bane's moon feat was retconned in the novels, and he only collapsed the temple on a potent darkside nexus. Vader's telekinetic strikes exploded beasts that could deflect blaster bolts/knock down massive trees/cause cave ins, as well as crush armored TIE fighters/melt durasteel.He can blow up the orbalisks or just ragdoll Bane until he breaks his bones.
Yeah, so lets claim Bane is faster when Vader's feats of blitzing Jedi, deflecting omnidirectional blasterfire, and turbolasers are better feats than any speed showings from Bane 👆
What did it say in the novel to retcon it?
Have u seen how dense heavy rain is? That's just as impressive as the blasterfire
Yes a potent darkside nexus.... after barely any training compared to vader's lifetime... no not impressive at all... probably was a small building then? Maybe a small shack? Oh wait it's a giant temple?
Until he breaks his bones? Orbalisks provide instantaneous healing to life threatening injuries, plus they boost his dark side abilities which means he's probably gonna be breaking vader's bones, not the other way around