Darth Bane vs Darth Vader

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"He waited until the last possible second before unleashing the energy bottled up inside him in a tremendous rush of power. He channeled it through his muscles and limbs, moving so fast it seemed as if time had stopped for the rest of the world. In the blink of an eye he knocked the saber from Sirak’s hand, sliced down to shatter his forearm, then spun through and brought his saber crashing into his opponent’s lower leg. It splintered under the impact and Sirak screamed as a shard of gleaming white bone sliced through muscle, sinew, and finally skin.

For an instant none of the spectators was even aware of what had happened; it took their minds a moment to catch up and register the blur of action that had occurred so much quicker than their eyes could see."
That's extremely fast... oh wait... long before his prime

Originally posted by hutchy1345
Because... starfighters are as difficult to destroy as a huge temple long before your prime (regardless of the nexus)
Hint
They're not

They are, lol, they're armored, usually shielded fighters vs. an ancient stone temple. Bane's wave had more AoE but far less actual pressure/stress.

Regardless, he can't charge his attack before Vader crushes him. Bane's uncharged attacks break couches.

Btw starfighters are hardly the largest thing Vader has crushed.

"I will follow you wherever you run," he said. "Wherever you go I will eventually find you and kill you. Don’t live your life in fear, Bane. Better to end it now."
That's also how long he charged it for, the length of time it took kas'im to say that
Pretty impressive... before his prime

Hutchy's absolutely raping rn

Don't encourage this stupidity. Use your anger, like I taught you, and kill them both.

On phone

Originally posted by hutchy1345
"I will follow you wherever you run," he said. "Wherever you go I will eventually find you and kill you. Don’t live your life in fear, Bane. Better to end it now."
That's also how long he charged it for, the length of time it took kas'im to say that
Pretty impressive... before his prime

Correct, which is substantially more time than he's going to have here.

I can only assume that you recognize the tactical unsoundness of such, and are just trying to interpolate his uncharged TK from it. Too bad you are a) running against the observations of his actual uncharged attacks which can't overpower fodder assassins and b) assuming some sort of linear force vs. charge time relationship based on nothing.

Vader's TK feats are superior. Accept it.

Yes... charge time
But this is POD bane with like a couple of years training as I stated before compared to a lifetime of vader's
Hardly fair to compare... basically like me putting 9 year old anakin against bane
No
Prime bane would clearly have increased in power substantially
And still nobody has proved the moon feat was retconned, either way, armored starfighters are nothing compared to that temple... have u seen it? It's huge... there's no debate there

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Don't encourage this stupidity. Use your anger, like I taught you, and kill them both.
Bane > Vader, your petty lowballing and disgusting wanking of Vader doesn't change that fact

Originally posted by hutchy1345
What did it say in the novel to retcon it?
Have u seen how dense heavy rain is? That's just as impressive as the blasterfire

Yes a potent darkside nexus.... after barely any training compared to vader's lifetime... no not impressive at all... probably was a small building then? Maybe a small shack? Oh wait it's a giant temple?
Until he breaks his bones? Orbalisks provide instantaneous healing to life threatening injuries, plus they boost his dark side abilities which means he's probably gonna be breaking vader's bones, not the other way around

Vader can collapse Cathedrals, down massive mining apparatuses, manipulate freighters, and collapse huge metal frameworks with one hand. Bane had to pause and gather nexus energies, Vader per feats can easily replicate Bane's feat hell any Sith could replicate Bane's showing. Again show me proof Bane can even react to turbolaser fire, and lol so what rain is slower than blaster bolts pouring down from all sides. And no if Vader strikes Bane with telekinesis he'll blow up the orbalisks and strike Bane's flesh, Orbalisks aren't more durable than Lylek flesh or durasteel all of which Vader has destroyed

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Bane > Vader, your petty lowballing and disgusting wanking of Vader doesn't change that fact

Exactly... we haven't even gotten onto the fact that bane can easily produce millions of volts in his prime (hint, that's alot)... and let's face it... that's vader's greatest weakness

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Bane > Vader, your petty lowballing and disgusting wanking of Vader doesn't change that fact

You've become strong in the ways of the Troll, Joker. But not that strong.

Originally posted by hutchy1345
Exactly... we haven't even gotten onto the fact that bane can easily produce millions of volts in his prime (hint, that's alot)... and let's face it... that's vader's greatest weakness

Vader's withstood point blank turbolaser fire from AT-ATS, and used barrier to withstand the explosion of Cymoon 1 (One of the largest Imperial bases in the galaxy)

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Bane's lightning will just be deflected, dodged, or absorbed by tutaminus.

Originally posted by carthage
Vader can collapse Cathedrals, down massive mining apparatuses, manipulate freighters, and collapse huge metal frameworks with one hand. Bane had to pause and gather nexus energies, Vader per feats can easily replicate Bane's feat hell any Sith could replicate Bane's showing. Again show me proof Bane can even react to turbolaser fire, and lol so what rain is slower than blaster bolts pouring down from all sides. And no if Vader strikes Bane with telekinesis he'll blow up the orbalisks and strike Bane's flesh, Orbalisks aren't more durable than Lylek flesh or durasteel all of which Vader has destroyed

A cathedral? This temple is bigger than that... but the fact that you constantly fail to respond to is this... This is a bane way before his prime, with very little training and he's just battled one of the greatest duelist of his era. I never said rain was faster than a turbolaser, but are turbolasers any faster than blasters? Because he can certainly deflect those
But Bane long long before his prime has cut sirak down so fast that nobody in the room saw it (quoted above) and iirc kas'im/qordis were watching

Originally posted by carthage
Vader's withstood point blank turbolaser fire from AT-ATS, and used barrier to withstand the explosion of Cymoon 1 (One of the largest Imperial bases in the galaxy)

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Bane's lightning will just be deflected, dodged, or absorbed by tutaminus.


And where exactly does he withstand millions of volts of lightning in those clips
His armor is really durable I get it, but so are bane's orbalisks, and Vader constantly gets wrecked by starkillers lightning

Originally posted by hutchy1345
Yes... charge time
But this is POD bane with like a couple of years training as I stated before compared to a lifetime of vader's
Hardly fair to compare... basically like me putting 9 year old anakin against bane
No
Prime bane would clearly have increased in power substantially

You didn't read my entire post. You're making arbitrary gut-feeling translations from PoD Bane's charged attack to DoE Bane's uncharged attack based on nothing but your own intuition about how much charge time matters (you assume it's some sort of low-slope linear relationship), in direct contrast to Bane's ACTUAL uncharged telekinesis, which fodder shadow assassins that are "no match for Jedi" can withstand and whose greatest destructive outputs have been to break boxes and tents. If you want to refer to this illusory non-charged Bane power that can match Vader knocking over AT-ATs and crushing cruisers, that's your burden.


And still nobody has proved the moon feat was retconned,

It doesn't need to be retconned (although Carthage could probably elaborate) because it never happened in the first place, lol. He just thought about it.

either way, armored starfighters are nothing compared to that temple... have u seen it? It's huge... there's no debate there

Did you even read my post? It's not just a matter of sheer size - modern explosives could blow open that temple but would not do jack to a shielded starfighter. But even if your comparison of the two TK feats were correct, it was still a charged attack and therefore irrelevant.

BTW Vader has crushed significantly larger things than starfighters. Read his respect thread.

Originally posted by hutchy1345
And where exactly does he withstand millions of volts of lightning in those clips
His armor is really durable I get it, but so are bane's orbalisks, and Vader constantly gets wrecked by starkillers lightning

Well, thanks for allowing Legends feats for Vader. 😂

Feats for Starkiller's lightning and Vader/Starkiller's TK forthcoming. You basically conceded the round lol.

Just going back to durability for one second. How many lightsabers does it take to go through vader's armor? One. How many force pikes at full power can orbalisk armor survive? 8! And with no damage to the wearer... so in other words it's basically more than that
This fight we probably go to a duel. So how does Vader plan to actually hurt bane, if he heals instantly and if vader can't puncture the armor in the first place.

Originally posted by hutchy1345

This fight we probably go to a duel.

No, it won't. Vader's telekinesis feats surpass Bane's by orders of magnitude, especially since you want to allow The Force Unleashed feats where he can match a guy who redirects falling star destroyers and destroys cruisers. He crushes Bane like a tin can.

YouTube video

^ you think Bane's Force wave will do anything to him? 😂

BTW, it's confirmed that Bane is the weakest of his line; there's a power progression from him to Sidious over 30 generations. He's likely an insect next to PT/OT powerhouses.

Since when did we say that a trailer was a feat because I'm pretty sure a trailer for the first force unleashed game shows starkiller ragdolling the star destroyer in a much easier way that he does in the game
Stop picking and choosing which trailers you accept
Can I have a quote that says he's the weakest

You say bane ragdolls? When have we ever seen him do that... he prefers to use his lightsaber, unless maybe he can't?