If you respond to me again, could you not pull a ****ing Syndicate please?
Originally posted by AncientPower
Freedon Nadd learnt everything he could, then packed his bags and headed to Onderon, he evidently did not learn everything Sadow had, given that he needed Kun to research Sadow's teachings to find a way to reconstruct Nadd's body for him. There are also entire places Exar Kun uncovers that nobody else had found before, also containing Sadow's knowledge.
-Fact File 90
"Freedon Nadd had been a Jedi who turned to the dark side as the apprentice of Naga Sadow, the former ruler of the ancient Sith Empire. Sadow's power had been so great, it had allowed him to survive for six centuries, fueled by the energies of the dark side. As his apprentice, Nadd had absorbed all his knowledge and teachings, transferring them into the Holocron before murdering Sadow and taking his place."-Darth Bane: Rule of Two
Well there's two statements, provide your evidence that Nadd didn't have all of Sadow's teachings or stop waisting my time.
Not to mention Nadd is a greater sorcerer than Sadow anyways
Originally posted by AncientPower
What Dooku considers amazing isn't relevant given that he is not a sorcerer and more importantly he is not Exar Kun. The Dark Holocron contains history and knowledge of the Sith dating back a 100,000 years and more, meaning that is how far back some of the knowledge can be dated to, not all of it.
Its pretty relevant that Dooku considered something Bane considered rudimentary to be magnificent and worth advancing from even after exploring the Dark Holocron, which certainly possessed more than sorcery.
Also, OOOOHHH HISTORY!!! Bane is ****ed now!
Originally posted by AncientPower
Furthermore Odan-Urr took part in the destruction of Sith knowledge throughout the Sith empire after the GHW and cut Sith Lords off from the Force, yet upon finding the Dark Holocron he considers it by far the most dangerous artifact he'd come across.
And unless Odan-Urr is confirmed to have come across a holocron as great as Darth Revan's, Freedon Nadd's, or Sorzus Syn's, I'm really not sure what this proves in comparison to Bane.
Originally posted by AncientPower
How can the knowledge the Jedi have during the Kotor era match that of Ossus when Mical, a Jedi historian, states that the Jedi are losing much of the knowledge due to the wars, specifically due to the destruction of the Great Library?
First of all can I get a quote for this?
Secondly, among the Jedi teachers Revan learned everything from was Kreia, and some of the greatest Jedi of Kun's day also lived to pass their knowledge down.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Malachor V was one planet amongst many Sith worlds, it was a storehouse of Sith knowledge from the true Suth Empire. That is impressive, but considering the Dark Holocron itself is specifically infamous throughout history for its knowledge, whereas Malachor V is a bump in the road comparatively in the eyes of historians then I question the supposed superiority.
Malachor V... is a bump in the road? Tell that to KOTOR II tbh. And any planetary store of information is hardly a bump in the road, seeing as such an amount of knowledge shits on the Ossus Libraries pretty hard.
Added upon this, it is also apparent that Darth Revan acquired a substantial amount of knowledge from Emperor Vitiate before creating his holocron, and some pretty hefty amounts of knowledge as well.
"Once known as Medriaas, Nathema was an agriworld of the Sith Empire at the time when the Sith also controlled the Chorlian sector. An ancient Dark Lord of the Sith named Darth Vitiate destroyed all life on Nathema with a ritual designed to grant him immortality. A transcription of the ritual was recorded by Darth Revan and served as the inspiration for Lord Kaan's thought bomb on Ruusan."
―Star Wars: Force and Destiny Core Rulebook
And its worth noting that this specific ritual which Vitiate apparently passed on to Revan was the most complex ritual ever attempted
"Once they arrived on Nathema, they quickly fell under Lord Vitiate's control. He dominated their minds, crushed their resistance. He turned them into slaves to his will, forcing them to participate in the most complex ritual of Sith sorcery ever attempted. Calling on the dark side, Lord Vitiate devoured them. He fed on their power, absorbing it into himself, utterly obliterating all traces of his victims."
-The Old Republic: Revan
With that in mind, the value of the knowledge in Revan's holocron, which Kun never acquired, skyrockets immensely tbh.
Quite frankly, based on some of Vitiate's knowledge, along with an entire planetary store of Sith knowledge, Revan's holocron is looking to be a greater source of knowledge than any Kun had aside from possibly Freedon Nadd, whose knowledge Bane also had access to.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Exar Kun's knowledge died with him, when Sidious finally uncovered this knowledge he praised it amongst all others, and maintained that it was too dangerous to share with anybody. Sidious had the absolute sum of all Sith knowledge the Banite Sith ever uncovered and he's still giving the greatest sorcerers like Sadow and Exar Kun praise for their works.
He doesn't really have the knowledge of everything the Banite Sith uncovered though, considering that a good portion of their knowledge was destroyed or lost by Gravid, quite a bit of Bane's knowledge being included in that, seeing as the Ritual of Essence Transfer was among the lost techniques.
And it's funny that you say that Sidious praises their knowledge as if it puts them above Bane when he considers one of Bane's works to be a cornerstone in the Banite Sith archives tbh.
Originally posted by AncientPower
On the topic of Kun and Sidious, Kevin J. Anderson states a clash between the two would decide which one is the greatest Sith Lord. Furthermore narratorial statements have reinforced that with Kyp Durron facing something just as powerful as Luke had in his own trials with the Dark Side. These comparisons are consistantly maintained right up until Specters of the Past throughout a series of books.
Yeah and who else aside from Kun would be a contender for the #2 spot on the darkest points Luke had ever known or whatever?
Originally posted by AncientPower
Now you want to continue using your pretty much retconned Fact File statement? Because Fact File maintained that Exar Kun, not Darth Bane, was the most powerful of all Sith Lords, until that was retconned by Darth Sidious being the most powerful. Obviously that is no longer applicable to a discussion with Darth Sidious or Vitiate, but Darth Bane is still 'fair game' as you put it.Want to stop using a clearly no longer relrvant Fact File accolade or you want to concede to that? You choose.
Retconned? The statement came out in 2014 LOL Want to concede to me or continue to embarrass yourself? You choose.