Baras > Scourge
Originally posted by AncientPower
Wyellett, who decades before his prime was considered the most powerful Jedi hero of the day, more than the likes of Ven Zallow, Nomen Karr, Jaric Kaedan or even GM Satele Shan?
But yeah, it's just that Dooku is damn good at handling duos, and was able to remove Kenobi (someone who sh!ts on Scourge), while "handling" Anakin (someone who sh!ts on Wrath). After he killed Scourge, he beats Wrath in a 1 v 1 👆
Originally posted by Geistalt
Scourge > Baras.The second Wrath > Scourge, as well. And that statement of Scourge having slain 1100 Sith and Jedi is way more impressive when you consider that he was reserved for those who openly defied/threatened the Emperor.
Right, but that begs the question of who fits the bill of "too powerful". Clearly the most powerful Jedi are still running around; by Scourge's own admission, the Jedi he's killed are lesser than novel Surik on DK's nexus, and the Sith he's killed are generally lesser than DC members.
There's a point where quantity stops being impressive. Doing the same thing over and over is not the most amazing feat.
We know Wyellett is among the Jedi's great heroes. Greater than Nomen Karr due to their respective Darth Baras confrontations. Nomen Karr 'destroyed' Baras' sister Ekkage, also nearly defeating Baras but fled. Wyellett's apprentice Xerender was capable of contesting with Baras and Wyellett by Baras' own admission humiliated him.
Nomen Karr himself being one of the most veteran Jedi Masters of the war and one of the Jedi Masters that Ngoni Zho considered invincible in combat when accompanied by Satele Shan, Syo Bakarn, Jaric Kaedan and Kiwiiks. He infiltrated the Sith Empire and masked his alignment without being corrupted until uncovered by Baras himself.
Originally posted by AncientPowerOn the other hand Dooku ragdolled Kenobi, Vos & Ventress, tossed freighters like toys and held his ground against Grand Master Yoda, Anakin & Obi-Wan in lightsaber combat. This is supposed to compare? 😂
Pre-prime Wrath 'ruining' Baras who is considerably more powerful than Darth Ekkage, who is much more powerful than prime Wyellett, who decades before his prime was considered the most powerful Jedi hero of the day, more than the likes of Ven Zallow, Nomen Karr, Jaric Kaedan or even GM Satele Shan?Yeh Dooku isn't beating him, and certainly not him with Scourge as back up.
Wrath gets the Arcann treatement kek.
Ragdolled Kenobi who himself admits he's prone to having his barriers compromised. The other two aren't even notable here.
Tossed freighters of unknown size? Great. Aryn Leneer threw a six car train like a missile, casually and she's a footnote compared to the Wrath.
Dooku freely admits he was an imbecile for thinking he could challenge Yoda in combat whilst amped by Vjun. So that's a no.
Dooku couldn't break Kenobi's defenses when he switched to Soresu and he was getting steamrolled by Anakin's Djem So. So that's a no.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Ragdolled Kenobi who himself admits he's prone to having his barriers compromised.
When did he admit so? His barriers are pretty well-developed.
Originally posted by AncientPower
The other two aren't even notable here.
They're both more powerful than Scourge, and honestly aren't far behind even Wrath.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Tossed freighters of unknown size? Great. Aryn Leneer threw a six car train like a missile, casually and she's a footnote compared to the Wrath.
The size can be gauged and it's anywhere from 50 to 215 meters in length based on the average cruisers used in Ancient times. This is a conservative estimate, btw.
And threw them like a missile? Where was this stated in the entire text? It only says they were "propelled by Aryn's power". Meanwhile 22 BBY Anakin is hurling tanks so that they have the effect of bombs that destroy entire armies, and he's still inferior to both prime Asajj and prime Kenobi. 👆
Originally posted by AncientPower
Dooku freely admits he was an imbecile for thinking he could challenge Yoda in combat whilst amped by Vjun. So that's a no.
That doesn't change the fact that a plethora of sources supports Dooku as actually challenging him, and some sources note his technical skill might've even been greater than Yoda's.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Dooku couldn't break Kenobi's defenses when he switched to Soresu
Yeah, he couldn't break his defense in the two seconds for Anakin to get up and press Dooku again, and this is while Dooku was exhausted and caught off-guard since he was led into a false sense of security.
Originally posted by AncientPower
and he was getting steamrolled by Anakin's Djem So. So that's a no.
For similar reasons as mentioned above. When he re-gathered his energies, he was handling himself pretty well even if he was losing and the movie shows Dooku capably matching Anakin's strength head-on for a solid 10 seconds.
Originally posted by AncientPowerOrly? I don't remember.
Ragdolled Kenobi who himself admits he's prone to having his barriers compromised.
The other two aren't even notable here.More notable than anyone the Wrath has dominated certainly.
Tossed freighters of unknown size? Great. Aryn Leneer threw a six car train like a missile, casually and she's a footnote compared to the Wrath.Tossed hulking Sith cruisers in the sub-100m range, easily, and while not even in the room >>>>>> pushing tram cars kek.
And I wonder how it's possible for Leneer to be a footnote when she went toe-to-toe with Malgus, who a decade later took on the Wrath in a 4 v 1. Lmao.
Dooku freely admits he was an imbecile for thinking he could challenge Yoda in combat whilst amped by Vjun. So that's a no.😂
Your talent for embellishing on the facts continues to astound. He concedes that there was a possibility he could have lost against Yoda on Vjun but nonetheless was able to hold is own, then, and on Geonosis. I'm struggling to recall when the Wrath did anything to compare.
Dooku couldn't break Kenobi's defenses when he switched to Soresu and he was getting steamrolled by Anakin's Djem So. So that's a no.I'm talking about their duel on Oba-Diah darling, let's not kid ourselves into thinking the Wrath could penetrate Kenobi's defenses when striking-twenty-times-per-second Grievous failed, or that he wouldn't get bulldozed by the Yoda+ power wielding Chosen One. Lmao.
Not that he didn't prove a "formidable" opponent nonetheless, another feat well-beyond the Wrath's pay-packet. 👆
According to the Anaxes College System, a cruiser was 400-600 meters in length. Anything smaller than 100 meters was considered a space transport. A corvette was 100-200 meters.
A heavy cruiser was 600-1,000 meters in length.
Now that said, an ancient Sith Battle cruiser was 215 meters long, so just a little larger than a corvette.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Yeah, I mentioned in the other thread with Deronn. But then again, ancient cruisers wouldn't have been made to fit the Anaxes War College system.Still, 215m is massive, and Dooku was easily hurling them about without even being in the same room.
What source is this again?
Originally posted by SunRazer
Yeah, I mentioned in the other thread with Deronn. But then again, ancient cruisers wouldn't have been made to fit the Anaxes War College system.Still, 215m is massive, and Dooku was easily hurling them about without even being in the same room.
Ok, I've never actually seen this feat in any of his RT's, nor have I been able to find it on the Internet. Could you please provide it?