Anakin Skywalker vs. Exar Kun

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Anakin is not as powerful as people say. At absolute most he only approach's Dooku in terms of a Force user, enough to not get owned by him. Exar Kun is far more powerful than he is.
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Originally posted by Nephthys
Anakin is not as powerful as people say. At absolute most he only approach's Dooku in terms of a Force user, enough to not get owned by him. Exar Kun is far more powerful than he is.

-Neph's opinion, the source of all knowledge in the universe.

Dooku pushed he and Kenobi back at the same time a good ways into the CW. He's always held the advantage over him in the Force.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
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Being realistic Beni the best feat Anakin accomplished midcombat was force pushing Dooku ( which might have been when he was enraged anyways ) or throwing back around 20 B2's.

All his other feats were accomplished when he either had lots of time to focus or when he was enraged. Dooku's incapacitated multiple Jedi midcombat and has casually accomplished ( usually with a hand gesture ) pretty much all of his best feats.

This is RotS Anakin.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Dooku pushed he and Kenobi back at the same time a good ways into the CW. He's always held the advantage over him in the Force.

And?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And?

And Exar Kun is much more powerful than Dooku.

So is Anakin. What is your point? I mean you think casual TK is the shit, but your opinion doesn't trump the author's.

Lmao, Neph Anakin has grown "vastly" more powerful since TCW.

So unless you can prove that Dooku prior to that was "vastly" more powerful than Anakin and then some, you are wrong.

Not that this shouldn't be self evident from his RotS stompage.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
So is Anakin. What is your point? I mean you think casual TK is the shit, but your opinion doesn't trump the author's.

My point is that Anakin isn't more powerful than Dooku, so obviously I disagree with that.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lmao, Neph Anakin has grown "vastly" more powerful since TCW.

So unless you can prove that Dooku prior to that was "vastly" more powerful than Anakin and then some, you are wrong.

Not that this shouldn't be self evident from his RotS stompage.

Thats vague and hyperbolic. He certainly hasn't demonstrated any Force feats above Dooku as of RotS.

I doubt that he's grown so much that he goes from being TK'd along with Obi-Wan and a bunch of spidermen by Dooku to being significantly more powerful than Dooku, in a few months or whatever. Again, he sure hasn't demonstrated that.

That wasn't a case of his Force powers though.

Anakin slaughters in a duel, Kun wins if he manages to use his magic.

Originally posted by Nephthys
My point is that Anakin isn't more powerful than Dooku, so obviously I disagree with that.

And my point is your opinion means less than shit because your opinion doesn't trump canon statements. Get over it.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And my point is your opinion means less than shit because your opinion doesn't trump canon statements. Get over it.

Are you going to offer anything more than some mean words or this the extent of your input?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thats vague and hyperbolic. He certainly hasn't demonstrated any Force feats above Dooku as of RotS.

Yeah, it's not like Anakin has directly TKed Dooku or anything, it's not like he collapsed a massive dome easily, it's not like he's now substantially more powerful than when he was throwing around Republic tanks, it's not like he's doing most of the work to deflect Dooku's own Force Push, it's not like he's forcing Dooku to use more power than he needed to dispatch Kenobi just by bladelocking with him, it's not like he's practically canonically more powerful... no, not at all.

Ignoring circumstances again Wolfie boy? Don't worry I'll fix some of your errors. ^^

He collapsed that dome when enraged whereas he couldn't even blow a blast door off its hinged when emotionally conflicted. Obviously neither feats are the average of his capabilities.

Throwing around Republic tanks? He slid it across the ground you mean.

There's no evidence that Anakin was doing most of the work to shield from Dooku's force push. Just your own opinion.

Practically? Oh goodie that's just close enough for you to insert your own opinion and tout it as fact. 🙂

Dooku was throwing Anakin around at the same time he was throwing that tank, lmao.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thats vague and hyperbolic. He certainly hasn't demonstrated any Force feats above Dooku as of RotS.

I doubt that he's grown so much that he goes from being TK'd along with Obi-Wan and a bunch of spidermen by Dooku to being significantly more powerful than Dooku, in a few months or whatever. Again, he sure hasn't demonstrated that.

That wasn't a case of his Force powers though.

Vague and hyperbolic? Wow you really where your bias on your sleeve these days. It's an adjective with a clear definition, one you evidently grasp considering your arguments against it, and not the kind a person of any sense would apply to the gap between Dooku & TCW Anakin.

And your "doubts" are irrelevant and frankly unfounded considering the incredible growth curve of his son, and appealing to an absence of evidence to disprove the statement is a logical fallacy, try again.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Ignoring circumstances again Wolfie boy? Don't worry I'll fix some of your errors. ^^

Errors? You mean you trying to overexaggerate context?

He collapsed that dome when enraged whereas he couldn't even blow a blast door off its hinged when emotionally conflicted. Obviously neither feats are the average of his capabilities.

The problem is Anakin is almost always enraged. It's his basic mindset to be angry in combat. The guy's just an aggressive fighter.

Throwing around Republic tanks? He slid it across the ground you mean.

That's practically throwing it. Doesn't change the fact that Skywalker threw a tank a greater distance and with greater ease than someone like, say, Mace Windu.

There's no evidence that Anakin was doing most of the work to shield from Dooku's force push. Just your own opinion.

Amazing appeal to ignorance, Syndicate. But I think it goes without saying Anakin will be doing more work than Obi-Wan seeing as how a "whipcrack as negligent as a flick of a wrist" of Dooku's power can dispatch Kenobi.

Practically? Oh goodie that's just close enough for you to insert your own opinion and tout it as fact.

And an ad hominem... Wow, you're on fire today. But lets read what the quote says:

Each parry cost Dooku more power than he'd used to throw Kenobi across the room; each block aged him a decade.

Source: Revenge of the Sith novel

Yeah, my statement is on point.

What statement?

Beni are you trying to apply Luke's growth curve to Anakin when Anakin's already been taught for over a decade by this point? I'm not saying Anakin's growth wouldn't be substantial but to suggest he'd grow as fast as Luke who had never even heard of the Force before ANH seems a little doubtful.