Silver Surfer vs The Elite

Started by abhilegend9 pages

Originally posted by Surtur
I was just listing reasons he is better then Coldcast. If he can output so much energy he rips a hole in time and space then well..Coldcast is kinda f*cked.

That's kinda nice. If only that helped him to beat some no name seekers in the very same comic who almost overwhelmed him.

Space cheese is worthless in fights. This isn't CBR.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well yes, but he does make it sound like it was the energy discharge that was so powerful it created a singularity. Rather then Surfer specifically thinking "create a singularity" when he did it. I'm guessing it would become more clear if one was able to read the entire issue.

Though I had thought he'd created a black hole on purpose at one time, but it could of been Stardust I was thinking of. Or it could of been his opponent who did it, Ravenous? Since I thought it was when Surfer fought him. Or that it at least happened around the time that whole arc was going on.

Not sure whether creating the hole was intentional or not,but surfer did a massive energy discharge on purpose,so that his location could be hit,that then formed the blackhole.

You are thinking of stardust, he/she uses black holes almost as much as supes uses HV lolz

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's kinda nice. If only that helped him to beat some no name seekers in the very same comic who almost overwhelmed him.

Space cheese is worthless in fights. This isn't CBR.

Man it sucks those seekers are better then Coldcast too, amirite?

Surfer didn't use it on them,as it will kill them,he is a pacifist

Originally posted by Surtur
When Earth and Saturn are at their closest it's about a little over a billion kilometers. For those who don't know 1 kilometer is equal to like a little over half a mile.

So surfer flung a spaceship that far? Jeez

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's kinda nice. If only that helped him to beat some no name seekers in the very same comic who almost overwhelmed him.

Space cheese is worthless in fights. This isn't CBR.

You use space cheese feats when it benefits superman all the time. Don't be a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Genii96
Um,thanos blatantly said surfer's energy discharge caused it, a planet can't come close to making a black hole. Stardust, basically a weaker version of surfer with less weaknesses,does that just fine

Looked like a shared feat to me.. planetary explosion/energy discharge. And we are talking about Surfer not Stardust. Feats arent interchangeable.

Originally posted by Genii96
Btw what's the distance of earth to saturn?
http://i.imgur.com/qG9gKEQ.jpg

That series is out of continuity if you are wondering. Dr. Strange turned back time do none of that actually happened.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Looked like a shared feat to me.. planetary explosion/energy discharge. And we are talking about Surfer not Stardust. Feats arent interchangeable.

Too bad it wasn't? Planetary explosion was caused by said energy discharge,thanos who was watching blatantly says it was the discharge,and it takes a star several times the mass of our sun to even make a blackhole once it goes,it was a surfer feat

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Looked like a shared feat to me.. planetary explosion/energy discharge. And we are talking about Surfer not Stardust. Feats arent interchangeable.

How is it a shared "feat"? The planet didn't help Surfer convert itself into a black hole. Planets do not have any kind of capability to do that or have any kind of ability to even to assist in that kind of endeavor. I mean what ability do you think that a planet has that can even aid the Surfer into turning it into a black hole?

Are you saying the Surfer CAN'T create black holes without an aid of a planet? I mean how would having a planet around contribute to the creation of a singularity? I mean, character statements seem to contradict that kind of reasoning.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That series is out of continuity if you are wondering. Dr. Strange turned back time do none of that actually happened.

If that is true,what does that change? Is this a surfer 100 years in the future? Or did strange go back to a time where he was weaker?
Turning back time dosent take away his ability to do it.
If I break a chair with my hand,and then you turn back time,that dosent mean I still cant if I tried does it?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That series is out of continuity if you are wondering. Dr. Strange turned back time do none of that actually happened.

That's what you get when you let writers do so much stupid shite with time travel, that you need to declare ALL time travel is now dimensional hopping.

While even Rock of Ages is perfectly canon to New God Orion and Darkseid. 🙂

Originally posted by Surtur
Man it sucks those seekers are better then Coldcast too, amirite?

Untrue, no black holes were created hence the seekers weren't that powerful.

Originally posted by Genii96
If that is true,what does that change? Is this a surfer 100 years in the future? Or did strange go back to a time where he was weaker?
Turning back time dosent take away his ability to do it.
If I break a chair with my hand,and then you turn back time,that dosent mean I still cant if I tried does it?

It's because of Marvel policy on time travel.

Basically, it's all a What If. The Reigning? Different Thor. Doesn't matter that 616 Thor remembers the events, it all became a different universe.

I'd imagine things like having Wolverine break his unbreakable claw on Deaths Head 2 helped bring about this polcy. After all, comic writers and editors are as much fan boys as everyone.

Originally posted by Genii96
If that is true,what does that change? Is this a surfer 100 years in the future? Or did strange go back to a time where he was weaker?
Turning back time dosent take away his ability to do it.
If I break a chair with my hand,and then you turn back time,that dosent mean I still cant if I tried does it?

He turned back time so that the Defenders team never got back together and the universe wasn't destroyed.

In Marvel, any future which got prevented from happening is an alternate reality. So an alternate Surfer did it.

👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's kinda nice. If only that helped him to beat some no name seekers in the very same comic who almost overwhelmed him.

Space cheese is worthless in fights. This isn't CBR.

Like igniting suns and cracking moons, amirite?

At least those happened on panel. Oh wait.

Heh, alternate reality readoning in this whole thread.

Excellent reading, though. DS is on point, Surtur too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like igniting suns and cracking moons, amirite?

At least those happened on panel. Oh wait.


No, like beating Superman.

Now show me Surfer beating a team of this calibre.

I'll wait.

I'll wait for you to mention Superman again.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh, what? You know they were casually tossing around enough power to ignite suns, cracking moons in half and even without Manchester actually beat JLA?

Since when did Surfer become so powerful?

Since his inception? Wake up.