Despite Palps superior feats and accolades, and your answer is still no.
Is there any reason why you want Vitiate to be stronger than Sidious? I know you like Vitiate, but to say no to something so cut and dry is bold. I mean it's common to want our favorite character to be the strongest, especially if that's one of their defining qualities, but I thought you preferred Bane over Vitiate any day? You have said Bane was on par with Vit. Has your opinion changed? If so, I assume because of more feats for Vit. I wonder if you still put Bane on par to him prior to Ziost?
Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't really like either Bane or Vitiate tbh.I mean, he's pretty cool as Valkorion. Much more interesting and cool.
Yeah, Valk is better and seems a bit more original. They changed him a bit for a reason, thinking no one would notice.
So you prefer Valk over Bane? Obviously you put him well over Bane, right? How about Vitiate (before Ziost)?
You merely asked for "sources claiming Sidious was the best of the best". thumb up
A dozen or so oou sources claiming sidioud is the best of the best? Really? Show me 5.
Vader imagined the power that could be his if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire. But first, he would need his own apprentice. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known.
Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.The New Essential Chronology
Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.The Complete Visual Dictionary
When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Instead, Yoda faces the dark side's fury, channeled by the most powerful Sith Lord in history. "Rob Coleman wanted Yoda to feel the power of his enemy," says Wheless, "like a force he's never dealt with before."Insider #86: Yoda's Right Arm
Even Ulic Qel-Droma would be envious of Palpatine. He had succeeded where all others had failed in taming the Dark Side.Taken from Dark Empire Sourcebook
In conclusion, you said there are over 12 sources...I asked for 5 OOU sources that confirm this. You couldn't even give me 2 full ones. Hence my point about using pure quotes for desperation instead of actual arguments.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Why would everyone be dead?Neph, is Sidious more powerful than Vitiate?
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Nope, don't think you read that correctly. So based on what I asked and what you provided without reading these quotes, I assume:
Ooohhh, I only provided like two or three OOU ones, and we all know you need five for something to be true. 🙄
They are all OOU anyway. 👆
Hmm..Without doing anything other than reading the quote, it's incredibly obvious that this is Vader's own musings. 0/1
It's incredibly obvious that "The Ultimate Guide" isn't a PoV narrative, lawl.
This one has been argued to the death. I don't recall the consensus of whether or not it was In Universe or OOU, and if it WAS OOU, did it include all of the material written after the quote. I'll give you half a point for trying. .5/2
lol. Saying that something is better than all that came before does not require that material on every individual data point in the set of "all that came before" have been written. It's a declarative statement of superiority over everyone before him - it would have been impossible to do say that if it required an individual story having been written about every sith.
You also misunderstand what an "OOU" source is - the narrator/voice may be third person omniscient, but that does not mean that it references the real world or anything, which means that when Vitiate was written in real-life chronology is irrelevant to the statement.
Again, without knowing if this is in universe or not, Vitiate used sith power, not Valkorion so I'm not sure if it can be fully applied, and if all of this includes material written after the fact. Another half point. 1/3
S666 was talking about Vitiate. 😂
Is this In Universe or OOU? Is Valkorion still considered a sith(I don't know). I'll give you a full point for this because I don't know. You're now 2/4.
LMAO. They were talking about f*cking people making the movies, it was obviously out of universe, and in the most literal way possible.
This doesn't even imply most powerful of the most powerful. You can maybe make an inference if you really wanted it to go that way, but this isn't a quote that can be used for your purpose because it doesn't "say" it, nor imply it.
"all others" means something. This isn't very ambiguous/difficult to understand.
In conclusion, you said there are over 12 sources...I asked for 5 OOU sources that confirm this. You couldn't even give me 2 full ones. Hence my point about using pure quotes for desperation instead of actual arguments.
Not only are you clearly wrong about literally every point you made, I only need one for my point to hold, which means that you still lose even by your own analysis of the evidence, kek.
Ooohhh, I only provided like two or three OOU ones, and we all know you need five for something to be true. roll eyes (sarcastic)They are all OOU anyway.
"all others" means something. This isn't very ambiguous/difficult to understand.
Not only are you clearly wrong about literally every point you made
I only need one for my point to hold
I can't wait for another 50 posts covering your ass. Should be as humorous as the other 50 or so times you lose an argument.
Because quotes are only rendered invalid when they're explicitly contradicted. Do you have any to offer?
How does OOU apply to material written after the fact?