Abstract Luthor vs. Abraxas

Started by Cogito4 pages

Not having read the issue myself, being mostly a lurking bystander at this point, it seems fully reasonable to me to assume that Luthor influenced the entire multiverse+, given that Death of the Endless has an multiverse+ scope.

She wouldn't have the day off if she were still working in infinity-1 universes.

Except it says he influenced the universe. And how many universes are there in total? Its 52 right?, hard to keep up with these retcons

Originally posted by Genii96
I have a field that negates time and space in 1 universe,...i can beat multi eternity/infinity...right?
Obviously neither of us are going to agree,so...agree to disagree

Ok!

Are you Death of the Endless? The very personification and Final Death in the DC Multiverse?

It's been alluded multiple times, all the aspects of Death are nothing to Death of the Endless. Once you meet her, it's game over for you. She's the end of Death itself. If she comes to you, you're not coming back to life, Ever!

It's even been said, once the Multiverse comes to an end, and it will, the only concept that will still be around is Death of The Endless herself.

So once more, DOTE operates on a Multiversal scale, Luthor's aura put her out of a job temporarily. Suffice to say, Luthor's aura is Multiversal.

Originally posted by SquallX
Jesus ****ing Chris man! It's right before your eyes. Read the damn scan!

Death Of The Endless, who is a concept, the final Death in the DC Multiverse was rendered powerless for a time because she was not allowed to do anything negative, even if said negativity applied to her job, IE helping souls past on.

Luthor's anti negative field stop a Multiversal being from doing a job that is part of the natural occurrence in the Multiverse. That field deemed Death itself a negative concept, so it canceled it. That's why that guy with a broken body was still alive. Death couldn't make him pass on.

It's so ****ing simple reading that scan, and there's only one way to decipher it. No more, no less. Yet, there's a few of you that's trying to put your own spin on a straight forward explanation.

👆

Lex's powers should render Abraxas inert.

But by the look of Death, he'd simply be unable to do anything, but still "exist".

OTOH, Lex can't use his powers for evil, like outright destroying the Abraxas entity.

So, stalemate?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Mindless wanking is always fun.

Starlin's IG made the wearer supreme in one reality only too. Stated several times.

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2586483-warlockinfinitywatch10_10.jpg

Let me know I need to educate you more.


😂 ... you and your misinterpretations.

Starlin these nuts ...

"Thanos ... Supreme being of this" (616) "and all universeS"

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👆 ... and while you don't have a shred of evidence to prove Starlin's IG was constricted to 616,
I would love for you to post more "mindless" scans so I can eat you alive.

Originally posted by Genii96
Etenity has been retconned to being the embodiment of the omniverse again,

OT, abraxas shitstomps, if the multiversal embodiments of eternity/infinity were helpless,luthor gets turned to a worm.

It not retconned,eternity always embodiment of the Omniverse
But his consciousness extends only across the infinite prime Multiverse

Originally posted by Genii96
Except it says he influenced the universe. And how many universes are there in total? Its 52 right?, hard to keep up with these retcons
The prime DC multiverse = infinite universes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
😂 ... you and your misinterpretations.

Starlin these nuts ...

"Thanos ... Supreme being of this" (616) "and [b]all universeS"

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👆 ... and while you don't have a shred of evidence to prove Starlin's IG was constricted to 616,
I would love for you to post more "mindless" scans so I can eat you alive. [/B]

Yeah, cropped scans are fun. The full scan though says another thing.

"Mastery over the universe."

That was stated like 10 times in 5 issues of that run by Starlin. Would you like me to post those too?

I honestly don't know why this is still going on?

This fight ends in a stalemate. Neither character can hurt the other.

Originally posted by SquallX
I honestly don't know why this is still going on?

This fight ends in a stalemate. Neither character can hurt the other.

That depends though on whether Luthor can maintain the field of bliss for a prolonged amount of time. I don't recall him doing that in the comic.

Originally posted by Utrigita
That depends though on whether Luthor can maintain the field of bliss for a prolonged amount of time. I don't recall him doing that in the comic.

Because being a luthor he had to attack Superman. Here he is not going to do that. And Abraxas is destruction incarnate. As soon as Luthor negates that, he should basically cease to exist.

Abraxas is one of the shittiest characters ever made. Even for Loeb.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, cropped scans are fun. The full scan though says another thing.

"Mastery over the universe."

That was stated like 10 times in 5 issues of that run by Starlin. Would you like me to post those too?

No abhilegend, the full scan says both. Although Thanos himself declares as the supreme being over all universes, but it's clear he intends to achieve that with 616 IG.

And 616 IG proved to have power in other universes as well, but you can also argue that it doesn't mean it has the total mastery over other universes.

Molecule Man stomps.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because being a luthor he had to attack Superman. Here he is not going to do that. And Abraxas is destruction incarnate. As soon as Luthor negates that, he should basically cease to exist.

Abraxas is one of the shittiest characters ever made. Even for Loeb.

Iyo which is garbage. Abraxas wins. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Iyo which is garbage. Abraxas wins. 🙂

I'll give you credit.

At least you're not Carver. (No offense, you Goku/Hulk three way lover you.)