Scarlett Witch vs a Future Sentinel...

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
That's not what I assumed, now your assuming something that was never relevant. Just take the L.

Like I said, Wanda being taken out my PIS means nothing in a forum fight, if that's your way to try and win this, you just lost again.

Her losing wasnt PIS; she lost...period.

You cant take only the feats you like and discard the ones you dont....

She was defeated by someone thats less formidible than a Future Sentinel...

Thats a fact, and based on that fact, Wanda losing to a Future Sentinel is a distinct possibility...

You'd find that statement to be a rational one if you were such a godd@mned jack@ss...

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Just like you missed pretty much everything else.

Like Wanda taking out Ultron, or Ultron surviving an onslaught of the most powerful weapons in the universe. But hey, it's nothing to write home about iyw.

Wanda took out some of the garbage Ultron clones (one of which Hawkeye beat by stabbing...lol....thats a joke compared to the durability of a Future Sentinel) and took out an Ultron Prime that couldnt fight back and had already withstood a beating from everyone else.

Thats not impressive IMHO...

You just mad cause you lost the argument. And where jumping around misrepresent feats and characters.

You literally low balled Ultrons armor for the sole point of doing so, you didn't know Wanda killed him, you didn't know Cap fought a weaker Ultron. You didn't know Ultron took no damage until the trifecta.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Wanda took out some of the garbage Ultron clones (one of which Hawkeye beat by stabbing...lol....thats a joke compared to the durability of a Future Sentinel) and took out an Ultron Prime that couldnt fight back and had already withsttood a beating from everyone else.

Thats not impressive IMHO...

Ultron prime would beat a sentinel..so nah/thread

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You just mad cause you lost the argument. And where jumping around misrepresent feats and characters.

You literally low balled Ultrons armor for the sole point of doing so, you didn't know Wanda killed him, you didn't know Cap fought a weaker Ultron. You didn't know Ultron took no damage until the trifecta.

I havent lost anything...

Wanda beating:

1) Vision that didnt fight back...
2) Ultron Prime that couldnt fight back and was already heavily damaged...
3) Ultron clones with horrible durability...

Doesnt conclusively mean that she can beat a Future Sentinel that is more formidible than someone that actually beat Wanda...

IMHO that points in the direction of Wanda losing to the Sentinel...

And no, I didnt low ball the armor of the final armor of Ultron as I didnt know that it changed; Cap was holding his own against Ultron and was scoring against it...

That's what isnt impressive to me...

Yeah I didnt know that Cap was fighting a lesser version of Ultron, but that still doesnt detract from the fact that Wanda's TP isnt an auto win as you initially claimed it to be...

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Ultron prime would beat a sentinel..so nah/thread

The Sentinel would beat Ultron Prime if it faced him in the same condition that Wanda did...

How exactly would a Sentile beat Ultron Prime?

Nvm, back on topic.

How would a Sentile beat Wanda? How would it even get close?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How exactly would a Sentile beat Ultron Prime?

Nvm, back on topic.

How would a Sentile beat Wanda? How would it even get close?

Its got options...

It could blast her to death as all indications is that she has only normal human durability...

The Sentinels ranged attack were very strong; I'm not at all certain her TP could handle it for long...

Or it could withstand her TP (between Diamond Form and the ability to self repair, I dont think this is a stretch), close distance, and either stab her to death or bash her skull in...

The Sentinel can amp its base strength (which appears to be on par with Colossus) by going into Colossus's Metal Form (which apaparently made the Sentienl far stronger than Colossus) and break out of a TP bubble and come after her if she attempts that tactic...

Keep in mind that Future Sentinels are not slow; they are big, agile, and can flip around and move during combat just like BW, Cap, or any other high end melee character; they are far more than slow moving statues...

Once again, the Sentinel has alot of options and it can self repair if need be to stay in the fight...

Now I'm not saying that Wanda cant win as she is clearly powerful, but to say that she wins easily and this isnt even a fight? No way...

I personally dont even think its a fight. A hex spell from Wanda should prove disastrous for a Sentinel. Even if the Sentinel got off the first offensive move, she has shields. Yeah, I dont see this as being a contest at all, but then again, i'm under the impression that she's the most powerful Avenger so there's that.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Its got options...

It could blast her to death as all indications is that she has only normal human durability...

The Sentinels ranged attack were very strong; I'm not at all certain her TP could handle it for long...

Or it could withstand her TP (between Diamond Form and the ability to self repair, I dont think this is a stretch), close distance, and either stab her to death or bash her skull in...

The Sentinel can amp its base strength (which appears to be on par with Colossus) by going into Colossus's Metal Form (which apaparently made the Sentienl far stronger than Colossus) and break out of a TP bubble and come after her if she attempts that tactic...

Keep in mind that Future Sentinels are not slow; they are big, agile, and can flip around and move during combat just like BW, Cap, or any other high end melee character; they are far more than slow moving statues...

Once again, the Sentinel has alot of options and it can self repair if need be to stay in the fight...

Now I'm not saying that Wanda cant win as she is clearly powerful, but to say that she wins easily and this isnt even a fight? No way...

And how would the Sentinel even get close to Wanda? And how is the diamond form saving it when she can ben and pull apart vibrarium?

Colossus was never that strong, so this amp you are talking about is not some uber amp.

Originally posted by tkitna
I personally dont even think its a fight. A hex spell from Wanda should prove disastrous for a Sentinel. Even if the Sentinel got off the first offensive move, she has shields. Yeah, I dont see this as being a contest at all, but then again, i'm under the impression that she's the most powerful Avenger so there's that.

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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And how is the diamond form saving it when she can ben and pull apart vibrarium?

To be fair it was a "vibranium cocktail". But yeah she could likely rip apart a Sentinel

SW wins.

Originally posted by juggerman
To be fair it was a "vibranium cocktail". But yeah she could likely rip apart a Sentinel

All alloys are stronger then a single compound.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
All alloys are stronger then a single compound.

Do you believe that a pure vibranium Ultron would have been destroyed like that?

And were are talking about a fictional universe here.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And how would the Sentinel even get close to Wanda? And how is the diamond form saving it when she can ben and pull apart vibrarium?

Colossus was never that strong, so this amp you are talking about is not some uber amp.

She pulled apart armor that was already damaged, so yeah, between Diamond Form and self repair, I think the Sentinel has enough to withstand her assault...

How does the Sentinel close distance against her? See my above post...it has options and the durability to power through what she has to offer (IMO).

As pertains Colossus, the amp the Sentinel recieved from Metal Form was great enough to allow the Sentinel to smash Colossus's head in and kill him...

Seemed like a pretty good amp IMO...

Originally posted by tkitna
I personally dont even think its a fight. A hex spell from Wanda should prove disastrous for a Sentinel. Even if the Sentinel got off the first offensive move, she has shields. Yeah, I dont see this as being a contest at all, but then again, i'm under the impression that she's the most powerful Avenger so there's that.

Based on what we've seen, thats a possibility (her being the most powerful Avenger), but I personally dont like glass cannon types and from all indications, thats exactly what she is...

A Future Sentinel (as well as many other characters) would only need a single attack to land flush to kill her; her shields struggled to contain Crossbones explosion btw and I believe the Future Sentinels ranged attack is far stronger than that was...

Anyway, I'd take the Hulk or Thor over her any day; they can take licks...she cant.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
All alloys are stronger then a single compound.

Thats not true; its true sometimes, but not always...

You can add gold to a metal and it'll weaken structurally (assumming the base metal was stronger than gold to begin with), but gain resistance to corrosion...for example.

So in conclusion, the vibranium cocktail isnt automatically stronger than pure vibranium...

Assumming the secondary metals are weaker than vibranium (and its almost a certainty that they'd have to be...right? Unless you believe that Ultrons armor was a vibranium/uru/adamantium alloy), then Ultrons armor would have been weaker than pure vibranium by default...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Based on what we've seen, thats a possibility (her being the most powerful Avenger), but I personally dont like glass cannon types and from all indications, thats exactly what she is...

A Future Sentinel (as well as many other characters) would only need a single attack to land flush to kill her; her shields struggled to contain Crossbones explosion btw and I believe the Future Sentinels ranged attack is far stronger than that was...

Anyway, I'd take the Hulk or Thor over her any day; they can take licks...she cant.

You very well may be right. I cant argue it. I'm doing more assuming than anything, but I still feel she would screw a Sentinel up pretty good. I believe she could take more than just a single one out too, but I cant prove it. Just how I look at it.

Peace

Originally posted by juggerman
Do you believe that a pure vibranium Ultron would have been destroyed like that?

And were are talking about a fictional universe here.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

So in conclusion, the vibranium cocktail isnt automatically stronger than pure vibranium...

Captains shield is a Vibranium Steel alloy