Brexit, should Britain leave the EU?

Started by Time-Immemorial40 pages
Originally posted by Slay
Tell me how exactly 'liberals' are keeping democracy from happening?

Prove I said that. Oh thats right, you can't. 👆

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You should stop crying about Brexit
Okay, done.

Next? Are we going to debate now, or are you going to get caught up in being 'right'?

I only have about ten minutes left until I go out, so I'd quite like to see if we can get some good points out before then.

TI, why are you so hostile? Last time we spoke, you were pretty reasonable with me. I'm not some über-liberal that you have to put down in the ground. I'm just a guy with varying opinions on the things going on in my country.

Originally posted by Scribble
TI, why are you so hostile? Last time we spoke, you were pretty reasonable with me. I'm not some über-liberal that you have to put down in the ground. I'm just a guy with varying opinions on the things going on in my country.

If you take words on screen as hostile then we should not talk.

How about we just talk about the topic at hand, instead?

Pretty sure we were. I never said you were a ultra liberal.

Glad we got that cleared up.

Anyway, my opinion is one of working together to reform Britain; as a Remain voter, I believe that the hate from the Remain side, calling Leave voters "Nazis", "idiots", etc. is unacceptable as it will get us nowhere and is also mostly untrue (I even know of hard-left people who voted Leave). However, we need to identify and combat racism as it happens, as Leave voters giving non-Whites abuse is also highly unacceptable. More division is the last thing we need now; we need to stop seeing everything so black and white.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Well okay, the pound is doing badly, everywhere is reporting it but if you don't want to use google then here's a few-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/23/markets-live-will-sterling-surge-or-slump-as-the-eu-referendum-c/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-23/pound-tumbles-on-results-from-northeast-england-in-eu-referendum

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36611512

And yeah, the BE was immoral. We committed a horrendous amount of harm forcing our definition of 'civilisation' upon others who we considered less human than the 'enlightened white European'. Sure things did develop from it, but nothing at all justifiable or worth the horrors done in the name of progress. I mean concentration camps were started by us in the Boer. We killed thousands because they defied us. We fuelled the transatlantic slave trade for generations, let alone other slave trades and indentured work forces the world over.

The Empire was a horrifying situation, at least when considered by our current moral standards. The fact that you say colonising in a positive sense is bad in and of itself.

The pound is reportedly doing horrible. I'm not going to fall for it. Economics are swings and roundabouts.

If you think the BE was immoral, you must think sugar, coffee, tea, curry, silk, cotton, and ****ing everything else is also immoral. British empire was good. White people tried to educate the blacks in Africa, that's why Mugabe is begging white people to send aid after he kicked out the white farmers.

The spread of Islam will only spread Radical Islam. You cannot have one without the other, Until the world unites and forces Islam to reform, we will keep having mass terrorism.

This is not about Whites vs Non Whites. My close friends as Black, Asian and Hispanic, they all saying the same thing. The spread of Islam has to be stopped.

Originally posted by It's xyz!
The pound is reportedly doing horrible. I'm not going to fall for it. Economics are swings and roundabouts.

If you think the BE was immoral, you must think sugar, coffee, tea, curry, silk, cotton, and ****ing everything else is also immoral. British empire was good. White people tried to educate the blacks in Africa, that's why Mugabe is begging white people to send aid after he kicked out the white farmers.

I dont believe it either. Its the elite bankers trying to scare people. They will have a huge sell off to bring the price down, then buy it back one the cheap.

Most middle income and poor people lost all their investments and switched to gold and cash and investing in their own homes, like myself. I could care less
what the market does.

Just to recap,

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Yea they should leave, **** globalism.

First post besides OP in the the thread😂

I have a number of gentle, peaceful Muslim friends, and I went to a 95% Muslim school, which was actually a lot less violent than the other neighbouring schools. I have my own issues with Islam as a religion that I won't go into now (I have to leave), but most of the Muslims I know are just as disgusted by the acts carried out in the name of their religion as we are. My closest Muslim friend, a very caring, quiet man, sums up Islam in the same way Christianity can be summed up: "Love thy neighbour." He says that trying to force Islam upon people is actually quite un-Islamic. I found my conversation with him interesting, to be honest. Gave me a different perspective on the situation.

Like I say though, I have my own issues with any large religion such as Islam, and I have specific issues with Islam itself, but overall the Muslims I have known have generally been decent people. That's just my perspective as someone who has grown up around them, though, so I guess people who have barely met any will have different opinions that I have to accept as valid, despite being less informed by personal contact and more informed by media and the like.

Anyway, nice chatting with you, I have to go. Probably be back later.

I met a Syrian Refugee in Munich, and he said Islam turns good people bad, I was also downtown Paris on 11/13/16. So as you can see, we have different experiences.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36633244

Nicola Sturgeon admits that she's considering blocking the Brexit.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The spread of Islam has to be stopped.

Without question.

Originally posted by Slay
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36633244

Nicola Sturgeon admits that she's considering blocking the Brexit.

Fat chance

Originally posted by It's xyz!
The pound is reportedly doing horrible. I'm not going to fall for it. Economics are swings and roundabouts.

If you think the BE was immoral, you must think sugar, coffee, tea, curry, silk, cotton, and ****ing everything else is also immoral. British empire was good. White people tried to educate the blacks in Africa, that's why Mugabe is begging white people to send aid after he kicked out the white farmers.

http://www.sahistory.org.za/topic/women-children-white-concentration-camps-during-anglo-boer-war-1900-1902

Lol, by their very nature, there isn't a single empire in history that isn't immoral by modern standards. Go on, explain away how colonialism, starving millions of Bengalese to death, the partition of India and Pakistan over lunch, the treatment of the Irish, and massacring protestors against their rule as moral behaviour.

Also, I wasn't aware that the British invented sugar or coffee.

Where did XYZ say they invested sugar or coffee?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Where did XYZ say they invested sugar or coffee?

If the British Empire is evil, so is coffee, sugar, ect.

Is the British Empire responsible for the existence of these products? Because otherwise, why would the existence of these products be evil? The plantation industry built around those goods was evil, but that doesn't apply to the product itself and its modern standing,

Thats not what he said, or what I asked but ok.

What country do you live in btw?