Originally posted by SurturDid you read the articles? The British public don't have any say in this anymore, its up to the Leave politicians to trigger Article 50.
Lol so what was even the point of having a vote if they were just gonna complain over the result and try to negate it?Aren't you guys like..democratic? When I was 4 yrs. old I played softball and sometimes when a kid struck out they would say it was just a "practice" at bat and the *next* at bat would be the real one. Is that sort of what is going on?
So how is anything you've said particularly relevant?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Did you read the articles? The British public don't have any say in this anymore, its up to the Leave politicians to trigger Article 50.So how is anything you've said particularly relevant?
Exactly. They had this vote and the "leave" side won. Now people are whining and some people regret their vote to leave(though nowhere near a majority of them).
So the people have spoken and some politicians are just possibly going to go "nope" anyways.
So I ask again: what was the point of this vote if a politician can just choose to negate it anyways? Or sorry poor choice of words. What was the point of this if politicians can choose to ignore it?
Originally posted by SurturAs Neph pointed out its a referendum, its not legally binding. The point? Ask the Leave camp, kinda stupid to vote for something your not prepared to commit too.
Exactly. They had this vote and the "leave" side won. Now people are whining and some people regret their vote to leave(though nowhere near a majority of them).So the people have spoken and some politicians are just possibly going to go "nope" anyways.
So I ask again: what was the point of this vote if a politician can just choose to negate it anyways? Or sorry poor choice of words. What was the point of this if politician can choose to ignore it?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
As Neph pointed out its a referendum, its not legally binding. The point? Ask the Leave camp, kinda stupid to vote for something your not prepared to commit too.
That is fine and it's why I said instead of negating they are just flat out ignoring. Also..why are you behaving as if a majority of those who chose to leave aren't prepared to commit? That's simply not true at all.
Also, your answer of "ask the leave camp" makes no actual sense to me. I'm not even talking about this specific case, but in general: why is there a system in place where the public can vote on an issue and then a politician can go "meh, nah not gonna happen" and ignore it?
Some people have said they voted to leave and that they now regret it. Of course the problem is we really have no way of telling which of those people actually do regret it and which of them actually voted to stay and are just campaigning to make sure they do stay.
For instance the petition to have a second vote has like 3 million signatures. The number of people who voted to leave was over 17 million though lol.
Originally posted by SurturI'm not, I'm merely pointing out if Article 50 is never triggered as is being suggested, the Leave camp will only have themselves to blame.
That is fine and it's why I said instead of negating they are just flat out ignoring. Also..why are you behaving as if a majority of those who chose to leave aren't prepared to commit? That's simply not true at all.
Also, your answer of "ask the leave camp" makes no actual sense to me. I'm not even talking about this specific case, but in general: why is there a system in place where the public can vote on an issue and then a politician can go "meh, nah not gonna happen" and ignore it?Ah OK, I was given the impression (probably because of TI's moronic sub-commentary) that you were saying the Remain camp should stop whining or something, as if Article 50 never being triggered would be their fault.
Anyway to answer your question, again it is a referendum, so it's not legally binding. But yes, the whole point of the referendum is that the govt act on the result. Which I agree, would make this something of a farce. But hey, I never agreed with the result anyway so not complaining. 🤣
Personally though I think they will trigger Article 50, but I think it will be a very long time before we fully exit the EU. And if for what ever reason the politicians suddenly all decide leaving the EU is a bad idea, it should be validated with a second referendum.
If they truly legitimately did show the vast majority of people regret their vote that would be one thing, but if they ignore it without that vast majority of people who regret it..it's basically telling everyone who voted to leave that their votes were totally irrelevant.
So if I was a citizen there and that happened I would essentially then be wondering why I should ever bother to vote on anything again.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I'm not, I'm merely pointing out if Article 50 is never triggered as is being suggested, the Leave camp will only have themselves to blame. Ah OK, I was given the impression (probably because of TI's moronic sub-commentary) that you were saying the Remain camp should stop whining or something, as if Article 50 never being triggered would be their fault.Anyway to answer your question, again it is a referendum, so it's not legally binding. But yes, the whole point of the referendum is that the govt act on the result. Which I agree, would make this something of a farce. But hey, I never agreed with the result anyway so not complaining. 🤣
Personally though I think they will trigger Article 50, but I think it will be a very long time before we fully exit the EU. And if for what ever reason the politicians suddenly all decide leaving the EU is a bad idea, it should be validated with a second referendum.
Its like you have no idea what you are talking about, and no nothing about how democracy works.