Valkorion vs Sovereign

Originally posted by AncientPower
...So Darth Marr has no idea what Valkorion's limits are and that is somehow your justification for the second no-limits-fallacy in as many posts? Nice, you remember when you admitted that Valkorion may be destroyed by being thrown into a sun? That is called a limit, the epicenter of a 450 kiloton TNT explosion is also quite capable of being a 'limit'.

The spirits of Sidious, Exar Kun and Freedon Nadd have been vulnerable to physical energies that don't even slightly compare.

We don't know what can stop Valkorion in all honesty. However, I don't think any superweapon can do the job. Valkorion is not a tangible being anymore.

Exar Kun and Freedon Nadd do not hold a candle to Valkorion's immortality. Their limitations do not apply to Valkorion.

What are you implying LeG, that I should take your arguments seriously over AP? Lmao.

But anyway, seriously, what is your argument? Granted its possible that Sovereign would be unable to destroy Valkorion in incoporeal form, but can Valkorion destroy Sovereign in this condition? If not he'll essentially be forced to retreat and therefore would lose.

Simply put, Sovereign doesn't need to destroy Valkorion to win, just rout him.

Do you really want me to go back to that GEoM thread and prove you're lying?

Originally posted by AncientPower
Do you really want me to go back to that GEoM thread and prove you're lying?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
What are you implying LeG, that I should take your arguments seriously over AP? Lmao.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
But anyway, seriously, what is your argument? Granted its possible that Sovereign would be unable to destroy Valkorion in incoporeal form, but can Valkorion destroy Sovereign in this condition? If not he'll essentially be forced to retreat and therefore would lose.

Simply put, Sovereign doesn't need to destroy Valkorion to win, just rout him.

You seriously think that a disembodied entity won't get inside and sabotage it from within?

Stick to discussing Star Wars for your own good.

Now he's mad. 😂

Sovereign is billions of organic creatures, an entire race, assimilated into a singular will, harnessing a 'body', the Reaper capital ship.

If Valkorion is in a physical state, you realise Sovereign can indoctrinate his mind and he won't even have a clue. Said indoctrination can be instantaneous dependent on Sovereign's choosing. Given Sel'Makor could do it, Sovereign certainly should.

Interestingly, a nuclear fireball can generate temperatures exceeding that of the core of a star. Valkorion could potentially be destroyed by the core of a star...

Vitiate resisted Sel Makor tho.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sovereign is a Starship, right?

You seriously think that a disembodied entity won't get inside and sabotage it from within?

Stick to discussing Star Wars for your own good.

Legend be like:

Originally posted by AncientPower
Now he's mad. 😂

Sovereign is billions of organic creatures, an entire race, assimilated into a singular will, harnessing a 'body', the Reaper capital ship.

If Valkorion is in a physical state, you realise Sovereign can indoctrinate his mind and he won't even have a clue. Said indoctrination can be instantaneous dependent on Sovereign's choosing. Given Sel'Makor could do it, Sovereign certainly should.

Sovereign easily. It's a far better villain as well.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Legend be like:

😂

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Legend be like:

I'm guessing LeGenD is under the table.

Remind me what it took to take down Sovereign? Shepard, and a good portion of the Citadel's defenses? Hmmm I think that's something Vitiate could handle with one of his rituals.. But only AFTER he mindrapes the entire Citadel. I like Sovereign as a villain much better though.

Kek, it took the whole Human fleet. And even then it only depowered because Shepard killed Saren/Sovereign thingy.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Kek, it took the whole Human fleet. And even then it only depowered because Shepard killed Saren/Sovereign thingy.

When Saren was killed, Sovereign was weakened due to the link between them since he was using Saren as an avatar.

Been awhile, but from what I recall, Shepard killed Saren and this caused Soverign to lose its shields for some stupid reason.

Edit: Ninjaed. 🥷

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Remind me, how big was the human fleet? I don't recall Sovereign powering down, I recall Shepard killing it.

Not sure, but in ME3 it also took the whole Migrant Fleet to kill a small Reaper.

Relevant ground realities. 🙂

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