Valkorion vs Sovereign

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Can Sovereign defeat Yog Sothoth tho 🙂

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Not sure, but in ME3 it also took the whole Migrant Fleet to kill a small Reaper.

I don't remember this part of the game but it's been a few years since I beat it.

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I just wanna say, Soverign couldn't take down the Normandy with upgrades to its hull and shields, not sure how that affects anything but there ya go.

Also, if Valk is on a planet and just staring at Sovereign then he dies, doubt he can take that much firepower.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
I just wanna say, Soverign couldn't take down the Normandy with upgrades to its hull and shields, not sure how that affects anything but there ya go.

Also, if Valk is on a planet and just staring at Sovereign then he dies, doubt he can take that much firepower.


Valkorion's ability to cheat death is all that matters in the end.

No matter how much fans fellate Sovereign, it cannot stop Valkorion.

On the other hand, Valkorion will eventually get to Sovereign.

Because? Soverign doesn't need to destroy Valkorion's spirit to win.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because? Soverign doesn't need to destroy Valkorion's spirit to win.

Correction: Sovereign cannot affect disembodied Valkorion.

When we consider Valkorion, we consider his true form. Not his masks.

Funny that we never did this for guys like Palpatine and all the other spirits.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Correction: Sovereign cannot affect disembodied Valkorion.

When we consider Valkorion, we consider his true form. Not his masks.


No. No, we don't.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No. No, we don't.

Yes, we should.

Valkorion should be taken as a whole, not lessened to a Voice or avatar.

Nobody else gets that luxry; Valkorion won't either.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nobody else gets that luxry; Valkorion won't either.

Will you consider the same rule for Abeloth?

If someone could vaporize Abeloth, then obviously I would. That is what nobody means.

I didn't think Legend could get any worse but lately he did.

"Valkorion wins...wait you mean the opponent is actually better than Valkorion? Then he still wins becuase they can't kill his spirit".

LeGend, what you don't seem to understand is that this thread is not referring to Valkorion as a spiritual/disembodied entity, only to how his physical form would fare against Sovereign in combat. It's simply what the OP asked, not more and not less.

Guys guys guys.

Its quite simple. Yoda also couldn't beat Obi Wan because he turns into a force ghost. Kenobi wins every time 👆

Vitiate couldn't destroy IG-88 because IG-88 has a backup in another system. IG-88 wins every time 👆

How aren't you getting this.

Originally posted by Selenial
Guys guys guys.

Its quite simple. Yoda also couldn't beat Obi Wan because he turns into a force ghost. Kenobi wins every time 👆

Vitiate couldn't destroy IG-88 because IG-88 has a backup in another system. IG-88 wins every time 👆

How aren't you getting this.

You're right, we're so stupid.

Originally posted by Selenial
Guys guys guys.

Its quite simple. Yoda also couldn't beat Obi Wan because he turns into a force ghost. Kenobi wins every time 👆

Vitiate couldn't destroy IG-88 because IG-88 has a backup in another system. IG-88 wins every time 👆

How aren't you getting this.


Tbh, I planned on posting something similar to this, but the sheer retardation of such a statement was too much to handle.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
I didn't think Legend could get any worse but lately he did.

"Valkorion wins...wait you mean the opponent is actually better than Valkorion? Then he still wins becuase they can't kill his spirit".


A judgment like that coming from you is really really ironic, my friend.

1. This is a 'hypothetical' versus scenario! Assumptions will be made. We don't know that how much firepower Valkorion can actually tank. However, there are instances of lesser Force-users tanking considerable firepower. Valkorion might tank a nuke or worse; however, this assumption cannot be refuted nor adequately defended. Heck, Valkorion might unleash some power that may disorient and/or destroy even a sentient Starship like Sovereign (it may have some weaknesses that Force powers can get through more easily then lets say a Turbolaser). We have evidence of Valkorion downing scores of Starships mid-flight with his standard applications with minimum contact (and this too when his powers were weaker).

2. Valkorion evolved into an intangible (disembodied) entity with passage of time. He doesn't needs corporeal vessels to exist and function since the events of vanilla SWTOR. To dismiss this ground reality, is being disingenuous to Valkorion. When we consider him, we should consider him on the whole, not just his marks unless specified otherwise. A quick glance at the first post in this thread does not gives me the impression that Valkorion is restricted in this fight.

Originally posted by Petrus
LeGend, what you don't seem to understand is that this thread is not referring to Valkorion as a spiritual/disembodied entity, only to how his physical form would fare against Sovereign in combat. It's simply what the OP asked, not more and not less.

What you don't understand is that Valkorion can shed his mortal coil at will and continue to affect the external environment. However, it doesn't stops here; Valkorion can acquire or shed corporeal vessels ad-infinitum. He is like Abeloth in this aspect. He doesn't needs corporeal vessels to function and affect external environment. I am sorry if Palpatine did not became as powerful. But you cannot just impose silly restrictions upon Valkorion without understanding his very nature.