Originally posted by deathslash
and did this seasoned martial artist have the level of skill that batman has displayed? Or the downright retarded level of pain tolerance that Thor shows on an average basis?
We don't say retard anymore, it's not politically correct. We say his level of pain tolerance is mentally challenged.
I should fine you a million dollars for this, but I will let you off with a strict warning and a fine of only 100k.
In comic book logic, a skilled street or near street leveller trumps herald level characters fighting skill more often than not. That's just the way it is. It's PISsy, but it isn't. This is even more so for characters like Bruce considered to be masters in forms of "martial arts". Again, it's just the way it is. It's like one of those rules or formulas in comics that is the norm not unlike the "fodder principle".
Originally posted by deathslashTheir stats are already close enough to be a competitive fight; with their speed equalized, Thor's far superior pain tolerance, his warrior mindset, and batman's knowledge of the body and how to exploit all of its weaknesses, superman shouldn't be able to take even one win.
Their status aren't close at all. If Superman goes all out he kills Thor ala Doomsday in a few hits or simply rips him in half.
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It's weird and BS that Thor h2h isn't up there where it should be. Thor, Hercules and Ares should be 7, seriously with their history of fighting especially Thor who is not only a Thunder God also a God of War dual titles. Its the writers that constantly water down his fighting ability, Thor is well over 10,000 years old or older +++ years of fighting and mastering his skills add with his strength and overall power he should beat Superman
Originally posted by deathslash
and did this seasoned martial artist have the level of skill that batman has displayed? Or the downright retarded level of pain tolerance that Thor shows on an average basis?
I'm not going to low ball Thor, but you can't sell Superman short here. His damage soak is crazy as well. Also, no the MA wasn't as good as Bruce, but this isn't Bruce with Thor's stats like I said in my first post, it's Thor with a high level of MA skill. That in my opinion makes for a giant difference, because Thor isn't a master escape artist, and even though he would have great skill, he wouldn't utilize that skill on the same level as Bruce, because Bruce is simply brilliant in terms of intellect. Just trying to see both sides of the fence here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Their status aren't close at all. If Superman goes all out he kills Thor ala Doomsday in a few hits or simply rips him in half.👆
Originally posted by abhilegendbecause his hand to hand skill is absolutely abysmal? At least pre flash point has shown some merit in the h2h department. However, new supes fights like a poorly trained, telegraph-all-my-moves, idiot that could get out skilled by even the average bystander.
Why would Thor stomp DCnU Superman?
Originally posted by deathslash
It's funny how in my first post I said that you'd think differently, and true to form, here you are bringing up one of superman's high end showings and acting like he can easily replicate that feat and Thor doesn't have the level of durability to withstand an attack of that level.
In both instances Superman was greatly weakened and still killed someone above top tier in moments. Why wouldn't he be able to replicate that?
because his hand to hand skill is absolutely abysmal?
Tell that to Kobra, Wraith and Orion and Wonder Woman.
Orion is one of the most skilled characters in Herald category and is actually the God of War. When he died in Final Crisis, characters actually forgot how to fight.
He has never stomped Superman like you're saying.
At least pre flash point has shown some merit in the h2h department. However, new supes fights like a poorly trained, telegraph-all-my-moves, idiot that could get out skilled by even the average bystander.
Yeah, that's why he beat the shit out of Wraith who was several times stronger than him and outboxed Xa-Du who was as strong as him.
Oh wait...